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    Posted: 04 December 2020 at 11:01pm
Yes folks - I have a scenario whereby I want to install Windows XP on a old PC !!
The PC does not get used on the internet _at all_

Now I can install xp with a valid (legal, in fact !!) product key .... but it seems there's now NO WAY to activate the damn thing. I hear M$ shut down the server that activates XP :-/

So - don't suppose anyone has any tricks to get around this ? Obviously I've googled a fair bit, but nothing reliable comes up .... if there _are_ any tricks, I'm thinking M$'s travelling bots may have  deleted/hidden them.
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Phone the activation line telephone number.
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Haven't done that myself, but I'm reliably informed that doesn't work ... and if you hold to try and get a human (well, a M$ pseudo-human trained monkey) they just say "can't help you".
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you could go find yourself a copy of XP black edition make sure it doesn't come with free malware. 

Option B here might help  you 
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Is there any reason you just cannot install Windows 7 x64 instead?

Then all these un-necessary headaches go away.

Especially if you buy Dell PC with Windows 7 COA Certificate.
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Is there any reason you just cannot install Windows 7 x64 instead?

Then all these un-necessary headaches go away.

Especially if you buy Dell PC with Windows 7 COA Certificate.


Not always possible, I have an old Alienware laptop that won’t reliably run anything newer than Vista, Win 7 can be installed on it but due to lack of Win 7 drivers for the touch bar the thing becomes totally unstable…. BSOD city!!

Also, some software tools still require 16bit support and won’t run on anything newer than XP, this is common with industrial PLC and motor drive/inverter commissioning software, all my machines all have an XP vm on them for this reason.

Late last year I installed a brand new Schneider servo drive on an industrial punch, the drive's commissioning software still required XP to run. Confused


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I used to always build my own PCs, then frig XP onto them for free.

Then I discovered DELL ex Corp PCs and COA  Certificates, auto SLIC activation.

My main machines are Ubuntu LTS, have 2x DELL  laptops running Windows 10.

Life so much easier now.
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Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

Also, some software tools still require 16bit support and won’t run on anything newer than XP, this is common with industrial PLC and motor drive/inverter commissioning software, all my machines all have an XP vm on them for this reason.


^^^ This. There are still quite a few pieces of industrial machinery that require this .... (as well as often needing a RS232 port).

How can M$ be sooo ignorant and stupid as to just pull the plug like this ? I mean yeah from their POV, they might wanna plaster warnings all over it, but why not just leave that server running ???
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Can potentially sort you a HP machine that you could put XP on

Just let me know :) 
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Originally posted by Sinai Sound Sinai Sound wrote:

Can potentially sort you a HP machine that you could put XP on


Thanks for the offer ... but that scenario has gone away now. Had to bite the bullet and organise a somwewhat newer machine that can take win7 32-bit. Thats gonna have diferent hassles though :-/

Just curious though - what did you jave in mind ? PC with the original OEM XP disk ? Still not sure if that would actually activate at the time of install ... and then there'd be a possibillty of it wanting to re-activate if any hardware changes are made. Pah !
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I would imagine, someone could pick up DELL i5 desktop, with Windows 7 COA for approx £70.

Just give it 8gb ram, and 240gb SSD, and it will run Win 10 x64 decently.

Could buy internal pcie serial card, and good possibility XP Compatibility mode under Win 10, allow XP apps to run.




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XP Compatibility mode cannot run 16bit binaries on 64bit versions of windows as they don’t support WOW16.
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