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    Posted: 14 August 2023 at 5:59am
So whats the most solid looking build qualitywise of the various companies if they seem to be made in the same or similar factories?  
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I cannot say I have heard of any CVR amplifiers offering any overheating issues. As for the Morin, the hottest I have ever encountered was 55 Degrees Celsius when I conducted the longevity test years ago. 

Had an outdoor event last week in which, I used the Morin for Bass to power two Double Eighteens. The amplifier remained 46 Degrees Celsius for 8 hours ( -5 dB from Clipping) under 87 degrees Fahrenheit weather with, 100% Humidity.  45 - 46 Degrees Celsius appears to be the standard on the Morin for the past 2 years this amplifier has been in usage.

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Originally posted by RoadRunnersDust RoadRunnersDust wrote:

But what has that got to do with baseless statements about air flow? Confused

Air flow is also only one small cog in the machine of thermal management, it doesn’t matter if it shifts more air than a Boeing 737 if it’s not ducted to give adequate air flow over the relevant components 


It's one of a very few obvious objective differences between two otherwise identical amps. Whether it is significant depends on whether you believe the higher power specs and whether these seem compatible with the differing cap and MOSFET specs.
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But what has that got to do with baseless statements about air flow? Confused

Air flow is also only one small cog in the machine of thermal management, it doesn’t matter if it shifts more air than a Boeing 737 if it’s not ducted to give adequate air flow over the relevant components 
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Originally posted by RoadRunnersDust RoadRunnersDust wrote:

Quote  Sinbosen 12V fans are 4*1.4A which is four times as much airflow as the Morin or CVR

Current isn’t inherently linked to CFM of a fan…


not inherently, but when components are de-rated by 5W/C cooling can be an issue. the CVR has a heat sensor on each channel and on the power supply so will try to investigate how hot it gets at high output.
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Quote  Sinbosen 12V fans are 4*1.4A which is four times as much airflow as the Morin or CVR

Current isn’t inherently linked to CFM of a fan…
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Originally posted by snowflake snowflake wrote:

Originally posted by RoadRunnersDust RoadRunnersDust wrote:

Originally posted by snowflake snowflake wrote:

220uF 250V rather than 330uF 220V ... 100uF caps rather than 150uF


For the PSU I think if one set is Low ESR and the other isn't will make greater difference than the capacitance, 1/3rd less capacity in the main power rails is fairly significant though (assuming the ratings are accurate)...


had another look at the caps

CVR uses Samxon 220uf 250V. 12 on each channel and 12 on power supply. plus 6* Samxon 100uF 400V
Morin has LH.Nova 330uF 220V. 12 on each channel and 12 on power supply plus 6*Nichicon 150uF 400V

I haven't found any spec sheets for these yet to check ESR.


got a Sinbosen D4-3000 DSP last week. It is virtually identical to the Morin amp and has definitely been assembled in the same factory.

Sinbosen caps are KXJ 270uF 250V and Nichicon 120uF 400V

cores on the power supply are similar but have different part numbers on them - can't find specs online though.

Sinbosen power lead is 3mm2 rather than 2.5mm2 on the Morin and CVR

Sinbosen 12V fans are 4*1.4A which is four times as much airflow as the Morin or CVR

Will do a post about the Sinbosen DSP when I've had more of a play with it.

Morin:
https://www.mouser.co.uk/datasheet/2/240/Littelfuse_Discrete_MOSFETs_N-Channel_HiPerFETs_IX-1856253.pdf

CVR:
https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/585880/FairchildSemiconductor/FDH45N50F/1

Sinbosen:
Oriental Semiconductor looks like it says
OSG65R041HT3Z D10P05N but can't find a spec sheet for that exact part number


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Originally posted by snowflake snowflake wrote:

finally realised that the software on the disc shipped with the amp was not the right version. ask them to email you correct version - or PM me if no luck and I will find the file they sent to me. Once I had the correct version it all just worked without any setup required. latest amps don't need laptop connected with USB>LAN converter - just connect them to network and the software will automatically find them.


cheers mate will give that ago and give them an email
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finally realised that the software on the disc shipped with the amp was not the right version. ask them to email you correct version - or PM me if no luck and I will find the file they sent to me. Once I had the correct version it all just worked without any setup required. latest amps don't need laptop connected with USB>LAN converter - just connect them to network and the software will automatically find them.
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How did you manage to get the software to work in the end? Mine just keeps coming up with no device found?
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I've lived in China for over 20 years. When it comes to service level, I think many time they are way ahead of anything I've experienced where I'm from, Denmark.

The reason Costco lets you use a TV for 3 months and still allow you to return it is  because they have calculated that giving customers that option creates more sales and is worth for them in the end. Hard to compare a small shop in Chinatown to Costco.

When you look at Taobao etc. they have very good buyer protection and many shops there offer full returns etc. Things are changing, Chinatown is nowhere close to representing what is actually happening in China.
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China teaches kids better science and math than western countries but they aren't more technologically advanced than we are.

They are behind in space program, fighter jets and most other things but they seem to be doing well with 5G, lithium batteries and solar panels.

In China the schools actually teach kids something.  In the west people learn on the job.  Because the west is ahead you can learn more on the job in the west than you can in school in China but for how long ?  With our garbage education here that prioritizes social studies and liberal arts over science and math we don't have a lot of time left before China stomps all over us.

But the issue here isn't that China is or isn't advanced enough.  It's that they seem to have a different culture in terms of consumer protection.  I remember buying a kitchen cutting board in a shop in Chinatown in NYC walking to the car and changing my mind ... walking back to the shop not more than 5 minutes later and the Asian lady telling me "no returns" ... she wouldn't take it back.  I also remember buying a Samsung TV from Costco ( here in US ) using it for almost 3 months to watch about 50 movies and then returning for full refund - they refunded everything including delivery, installation and return costs and didn't even check if there was anything wrong with the TV ( there were some minor issues like slightly bent bezel and flicker with some content ).

in the US i have NEVER had a major store refuse a refund even when the condition was clearly used and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the product being returned.

in fact there used to be a viral series of videos on YouTube where BlendTec used to blend iPhones and other gadgets to show the power of their blenders.  in one video they blended the camera used to make the video and then went to return a plastic bag with camera dust to the store.  the store did not accept the return but it took them half an hour to decide what to do before the manager ultimately and politely said that blending the camera was considered "abuse" and wasn't covered by return policy.  i'm guessing if they tried this stunt in china they would be spat on and then beaten unconscious by the store staff.
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