So are there any good DIY designs?

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   The plans for the WSX sub are widely available and they run really well with the standard Void V18. They sound great. Not sure if you would call it a DIY design as originally Martin Audio but its available for anyone to build due to its age.

Hog scoops, as mentioned, are pretty impressive. I dont particularly like the muddy bass of them but for sheer output they are hard to beat with many other DIY bins.

Punishers are pretty awesome for the size, a one man lift and have a real high output for a single 12" sub. 

Invaders too, are pretty good. maybe not the best but I like them

Even G-subs have a really high output and sound nice, but are better for indoor venues and not very good at outdoor or covering large crowds. Everyone slates reflex but I think thats just because they are 'boring' builds, you cant go wrong with a good reflex rig up close.

As for upper bass, the USB or the ES18 are pretty good cabs.

Tops, I have a soft spot for Xtro's but if you want ease of build and loading then the MT121 does the job great.

All have their downsides obviously as does any cab but cant really go wrong with those if they are loaded, set up and powered properly.

Edited by Requiem - 19 January 2023 at 8:06am

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Requiem Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 20 January 2011 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 1787	Post Options Post Reply Quote Requiem Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: So are there any good DIY designs? Posted: 19 January 2023 at 8:05am
	The plans for the WSX sub are widely available and they run really well with the standard Void V18. They sound great. Not sure if you would call it a DIY design as originally Martin Audio but its available for anyone to build due to its age. Hog scoops, as mentioned, are pretty impressive. I dont particularly like the muddy bass of them but for sheer output they are hard to beat with many other DIY bins. Punishers are pretty awesome for the size, a one man lift and have a real high output for a single 12" sub. Invaders too, are pretty good. maybe not the best but I like them Even G-subs have a really high output and sound nice, but are better for indoor venues and not very good at outdoor or covering large crowds. Everyone slates reflex but I think thats just because they are 'boring' builds, you cant go wrong with a good reflex rig up close. As for upper bass, the USB or the ES18 are pretty good cabs. Tops, I have a soft spot for Xtro's but if you want ease of build and loading then the MT121 does the job great. All have their downsides obviously as does any cab but cant really go wrong with those if they are loaded, set up and powered properly. Edited by Requiem - 19 January 2023 at 8:06am
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Meat Substitute Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 10 July 2020 Status: Offline Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote Meat Substitute Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2023 at 7:51am
	I had Omnitop12s. The idea was great, the size was great, the weight was highly convenient. Just a shame about the sound.

teeth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 05 July 2021 Status: Offline Points: 333	Post Options Post Reply Quote teeth Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 January 2023 at 10:07pm
	what was the verdict on bill fitzmaurice designs? i know a few ppl who run his cabs and rate them, but i don’t know the circumstances of them getting hold of them

smitske96 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 16 February 2016 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 979	Post Options Post Reply Quote smitske96 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 January 2023 at 8:51am
	Also add the DIYRM (Scott Hinson) to the list. Has various designs for PA and home available on his FB page with extended pdf's on them.

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	Hogs obviously , after all these years hearing them rumble still makes me excited

teeth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 05 July 2021 Status: Offline Points: 333	Post Options Post Reply Quote teeth Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 January 2023 at 7:22am
	it’s not really a plan as it’s a copy… but plans do exist… a copy of the Ws218X ;) does that count!?

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	I'm amazed no one has mentioned the PM90 yet..... 🤔

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	The B&C double 18 6thOrder bandpass is superb

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	Of the designs on here I have to say I have a soft spot for the X1 sub. It's pretty old now but they really do drop with proper drivers and amps.

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	@JonB67 They are good, same goes for the newer B&C designs.

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	There's a load of designs on the 18sound website. Couldnt find much feedback on them online so no idea if they're any good!?

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	I - (ok - my carpenter ) built a couple of (slightly) modified SMT212's. Loaded with P-Audio SN 12B's & BM-D750's. Still going strong & really great sounding cab. I also have a single Cubo 18, loaded with an 18 Sound 18LW800, that I picked up with a job lot ages ago. Unfortunately, just the 1, but I take it out occasionally for small events. I do like the sensitivity of the cab. It doesn't need 1000's of watts to drive the thing.
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