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Tekasis
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 9:37am |
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Which Bullets, Tweeters, Slots or Super Tweeters are mostly used ?
Which ones are recommended to sound the sweetest/finest ?
There are quite a few, but some of common regular mid-priced used types!
Eminence
APT-50 / APT-80 / APT-150 / APT-200
P.Audio
PST Series...
P.Audio PHT-413
Selenium ST350 Super Tweeter
Fane
HF-250 / ST-5020 / ST-5022
(JBL 2402 Bullet Tweeter Replacements)
Beyma
CP22 / CP25 / T2030 / T2010
JBL Bullet Tweeters & Slots
http://www.soulinspirationband.com/1-ACTIVE%20PAGES/SPEAKERS/SPEAKERS%20-%20JBL%20NON-POWERED%20-%20ALL/JBL%20ALL%20STACKED/1JBL%20NON-POWERED%20-%20ALL%20STACKED%20SEPARATE.htm
Fostex Tweeters
Selection from Blue Aran
Post what's used & mostly preferred, especially slots as not much is mentioned about these!
Cheers.
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Always preffered the Fane ST 5020/5022 Slots/Tweeters to the HF250. They are very loud and crisp sounding.
Im using some JBL bullets at the moment, cant remember the model number but they are also very loud and sweet sounding. |
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choice between slots and bullets will depend on the coverage you want - long throw, or short throw etc
personally, if you want long throw, go for a very good 1" driver on a good flare.
for smaller short throw boxes, slots can add a lot. can work well if used with a decent 1", crossed over at say 8KHz.
fanes and beymas as both good, as are the jbl's, but they should be for the money
the eminence units are very different on their structure. a proper bullet or slot is more properly called an anular ring radiator.
the diaphram is a ring which is clamped on ints centre by the bullet or axe head, and fixed on the outside to the magnet faceplate.
the ring construction reduces the size and the mass of the moving part. this improves transient response in the time domain, and frequency response. It normally also moves the first break-up mode to the 18 - 20k region.
the eminence tweeters are constructed like small cheap comp drivers - very similar to the old fane j105 horns that were very popular a few years ago.
im not saying there bad, just not as good as a proper bullet or slot.
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I know many people who are switching from JBL/Fane Bullets to other solutions, purely because of diaphragm replacement costs.
Also 1.4"/2" comps are giving increasingly better high end, than the 5-6khz that they used to. The Eminence supertweeters really do provide high powerhandling/spl/throw if crossed @ 10khz, and used in multiples of 4x. http://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=faq8
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Honestly, I cannot tell much difference between UHF units, just the type that they are (APT, Slot, Bullet)
If I remember correctly, Selenium do a line. You can actually find the more expensive slot tweeters on older hifi units, you know. But I have a preference to the fane slot. Don't forget a well done piezo array (yes, piezos can be made to sound acceptable), or a 1" |
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I know you love these APT's, but have you ever heard the P.Audio PST-535's or PST-545's ?
Many don't believe that or want to hear that, even if they've never tried it!
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Have heard the Paudios blow very easily, so wont be buying any of those. Did consider Beyma CP25, but I got 4x APT80 off Ebay, cheaper than 1x of those brand new. |
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Depends on the models & if the operator does something silly!
Ain't heard these, but know the 22's sound sweet. Only thing I was worried about is their low power handling. (25w AES / 50w Program Power).
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Some change because the tweeters can't keep up with the rest of the system!
One thing about the APT's is the replacement diaphrams are cheap! (for all models)
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Anyone tried these High power 4 inch Bullet Horn Tweeter PA HF250's ?
PRO SERIES TWEETERProfessional quality tweeter with heavy die-cast aluminium housing fitted with powerful high efficiency Kapton voice coils and Titanium diaphragms. Features:
Specification:
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Have a look at the Selenium ST350, although you do have to import them. Look at partsexpress.com
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Cheers for that! Looks & sounds good I'll add them to the main list on first page!
At 20 quid, they're worth a try. I'll get one brought over!
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