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fhk 
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Hi,
I would like to find out more info about the Turbosound TMS 3 mk 2 speaker. i have been offered some, however all i know is that they are 15" x 10" x 1" full range. My speaker knowledge is very limited so any help would be great! |
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4DPA
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Posted: 16 November 2007 at 3:26pm |
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ftp://ftp.turbosound.com/datasheets/legacy%20products/tms3.pdf
A heavy box.............. sweet sounding
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Posted: 16 November 2007 at 3:41pm |
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thanks mate, we want to use them for club installations. Mainly used for dance music. do you think they could handle it? |
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Posted: 16 November 2007 at 3:49pm |
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With some sub bass cabs then yeah... look out for 21" folded horn cabs. Get a pro in to set up the lms for you. |
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Posted: 16 November 2007 at 3:57pm |
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we will be running the 4 x TMS 3 with 4 x twin 18" PD bass bins. powered by QSC amps. defo get a pro to sort it all out!
thanks for ur help |
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Posted: 16 November 2007 at 9:52pm |
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You mentioned a Tms 3 containing 15"10" and a I" Apart from doubling up on the speakers all the original 3's used a 2" and later when the V2 device evolved It contained 2 small EV drivers that ended up in a 2"entry horn.
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Posted: 11 April 2008 at 1:50am |
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I have had 16 tms-3's installed in my club for 17 years... we have had every major DJ from Tiesto to oakenfold to bass pounding Deiselboy and every hip hop star from 50 cent to jeezy... they can handle it... in fact most artists will testify that our system is one of the best in the country... I have 8 TSW-124's for subs and six EAW BH-880's also
check it out...
and look at the pics...you can see um
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Posted: 11 April 2008 at 1:54am |
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get an lms700 (omnidrive fds388) or better... your gonna need to overlap the mids up into the highs to get that sweet smooth sound.. also we take our tms-3's down to 30hz and bring the subs on @ 80 and below... we have the mids out of phase from the highs and have a slight adj. on the phase angle. The boxes are pretty well in alignment... also keep in mind on how you are going to put the boxes... coupling them the correct way is a major factor in achieving a good spl and coverage from them
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Posted: 11 April 2008 at 4:46am |
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@ jsalopeck.. How come you take your TM3s down to 30hz??? Seems to make no sense at all considering they won't go anywhere near that low and all you'll be doing is over stressing the drivers....
They are great boxes though, think the MK2s had the 2 1" comps on the V in them which sound much better in my mind than the MK1s with the 2" JBLs. Not really speakers that you want if you're going to be moving them around much though as they weigh in at about 140kgs each if I remember correctly! |
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Posted: 11 April 2008 at 7:25am |
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that is how an LMS 700 direct from Turbosound has them set so i never second judged the people who designed them and programmed the crossover points!... also they use to ship the BSS FDS360 with those boxes back in the day with the 80/30 card in them as well... I think 2 15's in a folded horn would at least go down to 40-45hz in my opinion... but as i've always said...if it aint broke don't fix it? I've had um that way since the mid 80's and I've owned over 48 tms-3's myself at one point when i use to tour with them . I worked on Eighth Day Sound rigs numerous times back in the day as well and those are the same points we ran um at with them... I know these boxes inside and out. I also still currently own 24 tms-4's, and 16 TSW-718's.. Actually those boxes made the news today... I sent them down to the university of illinois for the DMX concert and my crew said a riot broke out do to the cops shutting down the show early... It made CNN... they rushed the stage and all hell broke loose.... my guys are 3 hours late getting back and thats why i'm still up.
anyhow if anyone needs plans for tms-4's, tms-3's I can dig them up... I have complete cad drawings for those... along with EAW SB-1000's
I never owned any MK2's.. i have TAD 2" drivers in all my current boxes (TMS-3's)...very smooth!
Factory X-over points in a once locked LMS-700:
80hz and below subs
30hz to 250hz lows
250hz to 5k mids and set out of phase
3.75k to 20k highs
b.t.w... as far as stressing the drivers... I have not blown a 15" driver (jbl 2226h in all my turbo TMS-3's) in 15 years! and they are getting hit hard with Crown MA5000VZ's!
you are correct.... VERY heavy! thank god for caster boards and flybars!
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Posted: 11 April 2008 at 7:36am |
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the stage got rushed but those also heavy turbo tms-4's survived.... :)
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Posted: 11 April 2008 at 10:58am |
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"The Bloomfield police cut his show short due to the agreement that Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity had with the University that the concert would stop at 9:30PM because of a noise ordinance law." Sheesh and we thought the criminal justice bill had it in for us.. Still at least you would normally get home early. Do they do pounding all nighters out your way. ? |
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