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    Posted: 13 May 2014 at 2:07pm
I've been reading from the forum about the differences between reflex and scoop designs for sub bass. Seems to be a lot of opinions, but I guess more or less everyone agrees that scoop is a more efficient way to produce high spl with less amp power, but reflex can go deeper.

So my question is, what would be the ultimate reflex subbass box and driver combo compared to 4 superscoops if the amount of drivers and power needed is not a problem.

Any opinions?
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×2 the number of scoop,s
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Originally posted by MRT MRT wrote:


So my question is, what would be the ultimate reflex subbass box and driver combo compared to 4 superscoops if the amount of drivers and power needed is not a problem.

Any opinions?
You will need 4 x double 18'' reflex to keep up with 4 x scoops
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I've done a 2x18 reflex which is the same size as a Scoop, or my Scoop anyway, It's a 4 ohm cab so it does perform differently, but it will leave the Scoop standing when it comes to close up low end. No big deal here because you can tune the Reflex cab, whereas you can't really tune a Scoop, apart from moving bits around, but that's not really tuning in the true sense of the word.

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So are you saying that if I have 4 superscoops loaded with PD 1850's and 8 reflex boxes with the same driver, with right tuning I get at least the same spl with reflex compared to the scoops  but the reflex goes deeper and doesnt have a dip in the frequency response?
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Don't worry about the dip in the frequency because you won't cross them that high
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Get some of my double 18s and piss all over scoops :-)
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Originally posted by MRT MRT wrote:

I've been reading from the forum about the differences between reflex and scoop designs for sub bass. Seems to be a lot of opinions, but I guess more or less everyone agrees that scoop is a more efficient way to produce high spl with less amp power, but reflex can go deeper.

So my question is, what would be the ultimate reflex subbass box and driver combo compared to 4 superscoops if the amount of drivers and power needed is not a problem.

Any opinions?


i used to run 4 18" reflex sound nice and go deep but lack the spl at a distance another sound used to run a pair of g subs same story switched over to a pair supers not as deep as reflex but so much more pressure and i prefer the sound of a scoop Smile
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Originally posted by MRT MRT wrote:

So are you saying that if I have 4 superscoops loaded with PD 1850's and 8 reflex boxes with the same driver, with right tuning I get at least the same spl with reflex compared to the scoops  but the reflex goes deeper and doesnt have a dip in the frequency response?

1850 is just horrible in a reflex box.
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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Get some of my double 18s and piss all over scoops :-)




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Originally posted by MRT MRT wrote:

So are you saying that if I have 4 superscoops loaded with PD 1850's and 8 reflex boxes with the same driver, with right tuning I get at least the same spl with reflex compared to the scoops  but the reflex goes deeper and doesnt have a dip in the frequency response?
Or 4 2x18's the same size as the Scoop. and regarding what we all term as Throw, most Gigs don't require masses of projection. You'll be surprised ( or maybe not) at  how far low frequency can project with power.


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This is the cab I was referring to earlier, made out of 1" Birch 2" baffle etc.

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