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Tekasis
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Ok, I'll do that.
Cheers.
USB Bass Bin What is it? :: What does it sound like? :: Where can I get one? The USB bin is a high efficiency, high power bass bin designed for general PA use and raves. It uses two 18” drivers in a band-pass horn configuration; that is, it has a short horn which gives it a high efficiency over 80hz, and a band-pass action due to its large rear and front chambers which allow for a shallow roll off – extending sub bass response. The USB is an extremely efficient bass bin, with a very clean ‘solid’ sound without any honky peaks or distortions. It works great as a kick bin above subs (like Labs) but also on its own. This is because the horn mouths couple together as you add more bins and the huge power handing allows you to also push the USB low to give out serious sub bass. The USB is a bass bin that you can build yourself. The design is fairly simple as far as horns go, and no trouble for an experienced speaker builder. To save hours of time and to ensure a totally professional finished product, we highly recommend buying the USB as a FLAT PLACK. They are priced around £200 each and are 5-axis CNC routed from two 8x4 sheets of 13 laminate birch ply. The panels just pop out and slot together in minutes. The flat packs, hardware, completed units and great deals on the recommended 1000w 18” drivers can be found at DMT sounds, www.dmtsounds.com. Alternatively, you can download the plans. By downloading the plans, you are automatically in agreement with the copyright terms and conditions outlined below. The USB uses two reverse firing 18” drivers. Some drivers are more suited to the USB than others. I advise you to do some background reading so you understand what loudspeaker T&S parameters are and what they mean. www.speakerplans.com contains a very good FAQ section with specific reference to short folded horn of this type. Basic guidelines: · Fs: 25-32Hz · BL product: 21-27 · Qts: 0.25-0.35 · Xmax: >6mm · Voice coil: 4in or more · Power handling: >500w rms From my experience with this type of bass bin, a lower Fs, Bl and higher Qts value would give you a slow, loose sound with more sub. Likewise, a higher Fs, Bl and lower Qts value gives a tighter, punchy sound with excellent efficiency over 60Hz but a much steeper roll off below this. The USB was designed to use the Celestion Frontline FTR18-4080FD 1000w. Other drivers which will work: · PD184 · Celestion FTR18-4080F 600w · PD186 (although this may not fit) · Fane Colossus 18B600 · Fane 18XB · Beyma 18P1000 · P-audio challenger 18LF · Eminence Magnum 18LF · Eminence Magnum 18HO · B&C PS100 · B&C PZB100 · B&C TBX100 · Eminence Omega pro 18 Please let me know how you get on with using these drivers. Check that they will fit before you buy them as the magnet sits very close to the first horn section. REMEMBER: 1) You must use the same driver throughout your stack. Mixing and matching different drivers in the USBs will seriously degrade performance. 2) You must invert the polarity on the drivers to keep the USB in phase with the rest of your system. Design background and tekky info Following the success on the Lab Sub, it was decided that the USB should be designed as an accompanying bass bin with the same front dimensions to allow for attractive stacking and ease of truck loading. A traditional horn design was considered, but the band pass configuration was settled upon as it allows for a wider response allowing you to use the USB on its own. By making the USB to match the lab sub however, it was no longer possible to mount the drivers in the traditional ‘forward firing’ configuration. It was therefore decided that the drivers would be reverse loaded and fire ‘backwards’ through the magnet. In doing so, the front chamber has been made smaller, decreasing efficiency slightly around 60Hz, but the rear chamber is now larger, increasing sub bass response. Apart from this, there is no loss in output (as a driver acts like a piston) and there are actually some advantages: 1. The magnet now has a direct heat path to the outside and a cooling effect due to airflow over the magnet. This eliminates heat build up in the driver chamber, decreases power compression (loss in output due to heat) and allows for greater power handling. 2. The magnet acts like a phase-bung; to an extent, reducing path length differences and giving a much cleaner sound and flatter response. 3. Mounting the driver is a lot easier 4. There is protection of the paper cone due to the basket. 5. It is actually possible to reach round the horn and check on the magnet temperature! The optimum horn mouth size was found mathematically to be ~800cm2. From this a fairly shallow hyperbolic-exponential horn flare parameter of 0.3 was chosen to maximise horn loading, and approximated using 3 conical sections. The design then went through many revisions to make everything fit within the space we had and underwent extensive modelling in David McBean’s HornResp program to optimise the front and rear chamber volumes. Eventually a design was decided upon. To keep costs down, every effort was made to allow the USB to be built from 2 sheets of 8x4” with minimal wastage. For this reason, it was decided that the cross-brace should be cut out of the central brace, giving the USB its attractive ‘swept’ bracing. Finally a prototype was built. So far we’re really happy with the results. A crude measurement of the response has been done using a sin-wave generator, multimeter and Db meter, and our ears confirm what you can see – a very flat response above 100Hz, and a slow smooth roll off below this. 1. The USB design and plans are protected by 2. Use of the plans is strictly limited to production of max 6 units per person and/or company. If you wish to build more a licensing agreement can be arranged. 3. Distribution or reference to the plans is strictly forbidden without prior permission and reference to www.dissident-faction.co.uk. 4. This design is provided "AS IS", without warranty of any kind. We take no responsibility for use and/or performance of these designs. 5. USB bass bin, Copyright © DavidTrotter 2006. All Rights Reserved. http://www.dissident-faction.co.uk/usbproject.htm |
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djstefanos
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relax. i have it here
Edited by djstefanos - 23 September 2006 at 1:44pm |
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Xmax extreme
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[QUOTE=Tekasis]
hi guys,
need your generous knowledge
how would I invert the polarity of the drivers as stated in Note No.2. Does this mean positive to negative then vice versa.?
How about i 'll just simply press the low phase invert button of the active crossover.?
USB Bass Bin 1) You must use the same driver throughout your stack. Mixing and matching different drivers in the USBs will seriously degrade performance. 2) You must invert the polarity on the drivers to keep the USB in phase with the rest of your system. |
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Static Age
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yeah just press the phase invert button.
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Xmax extreme
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thanks static, just want to be sure.
best regards,..
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Nigey-C
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just thought i would revive this thread... anybody built some? got anymore pics???
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pooju
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alright nigey
davey 'labsub terror' T is designing a usb 2 that has lower extension. Stay tuned ...
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Nigey-C
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any further development on the USB2??
sorry i like being impatient |
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davey t
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check the d-sub thread
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arxxx
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what if the speaker being used front firing and what would be the high pass &the lowpass.
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arxxx
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what if the speaker being used front firing and what would be the high pass &the lowpass?
please reply !!!!!!!
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biotec
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why would you want it front firing? the cab is designed to have the speaker reverse mounted so it will work as designed in that configuration.
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