Very small rig for my shed

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   A SN15B sounds terrible if you play it up to meet a 1" driver.  Use the SN15MB..

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Dom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 25 February 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1700	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 August 2008 at 8:27am
	A SN15B sounds terrible if you play it up to meet a 1" driver. Use the SN15MB..
	"It sounded like a million fire engines chasing ten million ambulances through a war zone and it was played at a volume that made the empty chair beside me bleed."

ceharden Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List The 10,000 Points Club Joined: 05 June 2005 Location: Southampton Status: Offline Points: 11851	Post Options Post Reply Quote ceharden Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 August 2008 at 8:59am
	One of my first pairs of cabs were an SN15MB with a B&C DE250 in a wedge cab. Advantage with the DE250 is that for a 1" you can cross over quite low, I went for 1.6kHz. Not many 1" CD's are happy with that. Trying to match a 15" and a 1" is never going to be perfect but with the right drivers you can get away with it. Much better if you can is to go for a 1.4" CD, only needs to be one of the smaller ones with a 2.5" VC eg B&C DE610 but it means you can comfortably cross down at 1.2-1.5kHz before the 15" starts sounding too rough.

J Arthur Rank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 06 February 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 183	Post Options Post Reply Quote J Arthur Rank Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 August 2008 at 5:51pm
	Thanks for that guys. At the end of the day, theres a lot of folk on here who have listened to a lot of combos of drivers, and hopefully i can learn from other peoples mis-haps and dodgy purchases. Much appreciated, BTW i still need to know, if looking at winisd and box volumes, to make a mid top, do i put the drivers in separate and then add the volumes together??? I can only put one in at a time, could be doing it wrong? Also is it easier to match up 12's with 1's than 15's?? Edited by J Arthur Rank - 13 August 2008 at 6:16pm

Charles_V Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 30 December 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 357	Post Options Post Reply Quote Charles_V Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 August 2008 at 5:34pm
	take note:

Deadbeat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 12 March 2008 Location: Singularity Status: Offline Points: 3167	Post Options Post Reply Quote Deadbeat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 August 2008 at 5:39pm
	The matching of drivers depends on the drivers themselves, some 15s can run up to 1s well, some can't. charles, are those flightcases? very cool.
	Away on extended leave.

J Arthur Rank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 06 February 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 183	Post Options Post Reply Quote J Arthur Rank Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 August 2008 at 7:19pm
	Charles, i am going to see LX @ the disco shed on saturday....!! ACE My disco shed is more a workshop, come dancefloor, come DJ booth and is static unfortunately. Let me have me dinner and i'll take a photo of my shed 4 ya. Gimme 20 mins. Edited by J Arthur Rank - 14 August 2008 at 7:23pm

J Arthur Rank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 06 February 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 183	Post Options Post Reply Quote J Arthur Rank Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 August 2008 at 8:02pm
	Heres my shed. Dance floor (when emptied) DJ Booth Studio Bench Opened up with DJ / serving hatch aloft Chill Out Zone Makeshift studio in back bedroom whilst dusts flying down the shed. (wife not happy) The shed is effectively a reflex box, ported where the roof meets the structure. I wondered about a box of 6 15" drivers on the serving hatch, but that would just be silly. But when you fire up some small monitors in there, boy can you hear it from inside the house. A bit of dampening here and there and its going to be a wicked studio. I had great fun building it from a pile of 3x2 and shuttering ply, just an idea and a dewalt. Edited by J Arthur Rank - 14 August 2008 at 8:20pm

J Arthur Rank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 06 February 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 183	Post Options Post Reply Quote J Arthur Rank Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 August 2008 at 8:07pm
	photobuckets not working now it is, can't have any swear works in the title. All my piccys go in the random sh..1..te folder. lesson learned. Edited by J Arthur Rank - 14 August 2008 at 8:21pm

wafflesomd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 21 September 2007 Status: Offline Points: 811	Post Options Post Reply Quote wafflesomd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 August 2008 at 8:28pm
	You running mono with this?

J Arthur Rank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 06 February 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 183	Post Options Post Reply Quote J Arthur Rank Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 August 2008 at 8:37pm
	Yeah, will be to start, just as and when money dictates. Next month i should be able to afford the other drivers for the next mid top. Why?? Edited by J Arthur Rank - 14 August 2008 at 9:02pm

wafflesomd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 21 September 2007 Status: Offline Points: 811	Post Options Post Reply Quote wafflesomd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 August 2008 at 6:04am
	Just wondering. Mono would be, bleh. I really like those top builds though, what plans are they.

Deadbeat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 12 March 2008 Location: Singularity Status: Offline Points: 3167	Post Options Post Reply Quote Deadbeat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 August 2008 at 7:39am
	Ahh, a nice little install I see. An idea would be to reinforce the structure over the next few days and properly install some bass reinforcement, you could use an empty cavity like a corner for a cheap infinite baffle install, or mount some cigar-shaped or sonotube tapped horns in, these options can be quite cheap (drivers can be cheaper than C15s...) and go loooowww. Then you can build another wedge, put both on stands as far apart as you can, turn on the amps and everything, and watch as people are fooled int thinking that all the bass is coming from those cabs. Bit of soundproofing/room treatment and you've got yourself a very multipurpose studio! Waffles, those wedges are the result of a bit of quick calculation within winisd after drawing out a basic box plan and volume.
	Away on extended leave.