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    Posted: 07 March 2017 at 5:41pm
Hi there, I've been using P38 filler for along time on my cabs to fill the counter sunk holes used for the assembly screws. I've noticed on some of my older cabs that I still have in my possession, the filler plug has lifted out of the hole. Upon removing the plug the screw behind has rusted causing it to expand and push the filler out. I know filler is porous so I assume water has penetrated the Aldcroft speaker paint, soak through the filler and rusted the screw.

I think from now on I'm going to use stainless steel screws, but I never questioned the filler i use.

So I'm asking you lot, What type of filler are people using?

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fine sawdust and pva glue mix. cheap, strong and does the job!
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yes, use pva/sawdust or wood filler. use the money you save to buy some decent screws. using car body filler is solving a problem that doesn't exist. it doesn't sand down flush with the wood easily either so you end up making more work for yourself.

if there's a rusty screw in there try and back it out, or at least drill the head out.


Edited by snowflake - 07 March 2017 at 6:13pm
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I have the same problem.
Do you know if Warnex will stick to PVA glue?
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it will definitely stick to wood filler so use that. they call it wood filler for a reason!
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Any particular brand of wood filler?

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Originally posted by snowflake snowflake wrote:

it will definitely stick to wood filler so use that. they call it wood filler for a reason!

I know it will stick to filler but filler that I used expanded.
I dont know is it becouse of the filler or the screw underneath. The screw does not look rusty.
I'm searching for alternative for wood filler. I read here before about PVA glue with dust but donmt know will Warnex stick to it or I need some primer coat?
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What size screws are you all using? I was considering using the tonguetite screws as the lost head makes for a much easier safer hole shape for filler to bond into which would eliminate this issue.... thoughts?
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Counter bore and plug hoe hoe?

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Just to throw my two pence in, I've used Big Boy lightweight filler to great effect on a number of cabs 
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Devils advocate: Don't use screws, they're a structural liability the moment the glue sets.

Rebate, dowels, biscuits, glue and f*** off big clamps should do it.
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Originally posted by I-shen Soundboy I-shen Soundboy wrote:

Devils advocate: Don't use screws, they're a structural liability the moment the glue sets.

Rebate, dowels, biscuits, glue and f*** off big clamps should do it.


How is a screw a structural liability?
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