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dlyxover
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Posted: 31 May 2020 at 10:46am |
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I'm looking at getting a CNC router.
Who has one? what are your thought's on it? What should I be looking out for? What extra cost are involved other than the initial machine and tooling purchase? Any input appreciated.
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Service minimum ones a year, lubrication, and the electricity cost.
And you need a proper system to take care of all the dust the machine spits out during operation. If you dont have enough sucktion, it can become a health and fire risk.
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MarjanM
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Initial cost of purchasing the machine and several broken tools until you learn the work process.
Get one that has self lubricating system and get a dust extractor. Water cooled spindle is advantage too.
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Software to program and simulate is also a very good investment.
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dlyxover
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The one I'm looking at has a 2.2kw water cooled spindle controlled off a VFD, uses ball screw and runs on Linear rails.
Be nice to get a vacuum table and pneumatic pop up pins for material placement. Been given a option on stepper motors a nema 34 850oz or nema 34 1200oz closed loop stepper. Is upgrading worth it? Been learning fusion 360 and aspire recently. Edited by dlyxover - 31 May 2020 at 5:32pm |
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concept-10
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Nema 34 1200s are very good motors, a vac bed is good but can be a big current draw, 2.2kw water cooled spindle will be fine for anything you do.
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what are the advantages of the upgraded motors?
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You would be even better off with a vacuum head and brush around the spindle. But a vac bed is good enough.
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dlyxover
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I don't think it comes with a dust shoe for the extraction, guess it would be my first project. Agreed extraction is a must.
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They will never work hard cutting ply and will last forever but if you want to put a slab of seasoned oak on and skim and cut it with larger bits then they are what you need, we don't just make cabs so that's what we went with but would still have used them anyway as they will never be stressed. Extraction is important but don't get carried away, make a shoe and attach a simple hoover to it to see how much it clears, you will be surprised, then go and get extraction of about double the power but with plenty of dust storage, don't blow you budget. Edited by concept-10 - 31 May 2020 at 8:06pm |
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Sounds like a reasonable tool spec, can you post a link to it? Re. the motors, I probably wouldn't bother with the upgrade if you are only cutting wood. But to be sure you need to run the maths regarding the maximum forces exerted during cutting. Going larger on motors not always a good idea, means more inductance per winding which limits your maximum speeds. At the point at which your motors can handle whatever is on the bed, going larger is diminishing returns in price and performance. The debate as to closed loop or not is a constant one, consensus is that there is no harm in going closed loop if you don't mind the extra wiring complexity. But bear in mind how you will wire the motor alarms if they detect that position cannot be maintained. I would suspect that if you only want to cut wood, then an open loop set of motors would be absolutely fine providing that the tool was well set up and you program tool paths within its capabilities. Before you buy I would spend a lot of time reading http://www.mycncuk.com/ and https://www.cnczone.com/forums/ for advice and guidance. Your software choices are good, you can get a lot of work done with aspire and fusion. I find that they complement each other well. Fusion gives you the complex 2.5/3D HSM options while aspire gives you often a quicker route to simpler 2D/2.5D designs. |
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I know you guys are way too pro for this but it looks like a good Idea for someone of a more hobbyist nature. any thoughts guys? https://www.metalmaslow.com/
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