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    Posted: 27 October 2009 at 9:26am
Anyone bought this yet or tried the Beta?
 
If you still manage to download a Beta version, will it still work?
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Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Anyone bought this yet or tried the Beta?
 

If you still manage to download a Beta version, will it still work?


Until March 2010, when it will timebomb. Just get the retail.
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been using the RC since it was released and the prior versions, but 64bit didn't run all my progs so using 32bit, which i like, got it originally for my dell xt touchscreen as xp and xp tablet just dont cut it anymore in comparison, but stuck with it for my t61 as i couldn't go back anymore.

everything that worked in vista works in 7.
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And from my brief testing everything that didn't work in Vista pretty much works in 7. If not, you have an XP VM anyway.
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I wonder how much ram it takes just to run it?..i had that problem with vista,if you have a laptop with "only" 2gb ram,so slow,swaped it for XP,super fast now...so i wonder if seven is also memory-hungry?
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Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

I wonder how much ram it takes just to run it?..i had that problem with vista,if you have a laptop with "only" 2gb ram,so slow,swaped it for XP,super fast now...so i wonder if seven is also memory-hungry?


Vista wasn't memory hungry, it just kept memory 'wired' rather than 'free' which hardly anybody seems to understand.

It should improve performance, but it was some poor management of moving the memory between apps that got Vista it's bad rep. It's much better in 7, but you still won't see as much 'free' memory as you do in XP. Not that it's a bad thing, 'free' memory is memory doing nothing, when it could be used to further increase performance of currently running apps.
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hey

yeah i've been running beta and then RC for ages now on my general machines and they're great. Bass Box Pro and Win ISD work fine, but I haven't tried it on my Pro Tools rig or any music specific programs yet.

And in terms of memory and system usage, while it'll never be as small as XP its significantly better than Vista and runs well even on Netbooks from what I hear.

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Quote Vista wasn't memory hungry, it just kept memory 'wired' rather than 'free' which hardly anybody seems to understand


Exactly


Load as much stuff as you can into RAM for ultrafast access leaving enough free to handle new unexpected requests. Clever predictive pre-caching development only improves things further
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote minaximal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2009 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

I wonder how much ram it takes just to run it?..i had that problem with vista,if you have a laptop with "only" 2gb ram,so slow,swaped it for XP,super fast now...so i wonder if seven is also memory-hungry?


i'm temporarily running win7rc with only 1gb ram atm on my laptop which is fine for everyday use and faster than vista.

theres also smartboost thing you can alocate to a usb flash drive to help with caching or something, forget exactly what, but it seems to help a little and a free bonus.

also, with the added functionality of win7 it's a good idea to do as you would have to with vista and turn off a few features or/and set your own task management regime (manual) to optimise your system performance.  the searchbar is very powerfull but things like search cacheing? can slow down the system, if it happens in the middle of something else.







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Windows 7 is a lot better than vista. But I still just dont see the need to upgrade from xp.
xp does everything I need. I dont care that they moved all the control panel icons about. Or removed the word start form the start menu. I haven't seen one improvement in vista or 7 that would warrant me switching. Come to think of it I dont even remember why I changed from 2000.
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I refused to upgrade to Vista, personally and my recommendation to friends and family was to only take Vista if it comes with a new PC (ie the drivers were already there). I do not like problem solving on Vista. The way the security/permissions is handled has meant for me I will not use it.
 
My last job also put me in charge of a school network (500+ computers) and both myself, and my replacement (I moved diagonally) stated categorically that we would not be using Vista in the school.
My experiences of using vista and the issues that come from that meant it was a no-go for our network. Most of the machines now in, came with Vista licenses but are to date unused.

Once tested however, i would probably agree to the use of 7 within the school. Though I do not have final say anymore, I am still in a position to influence that. 

I had both Vista and more recently win7rc running in VMware fusion on my mac and on vmware on PC, and A/B test wise with same basic install, OS and MS office 2003. Time to operation was faster on win7rc, more stable, and better usability. I find Vista a frustration to use, hence my everyday use of OSX.

However with all things, I would have to check existing software worked on 7 before updating.
In the school, it would have to give a performance/network benefit to justify the work re-imaging all the machines. In many schools, Vista has been refused.

For music machines, it may well be that Vista would be needed as supports higher RAM use in programs, and many music specific software manufacturers have OKd Vista 100% on their products, and not yet done so for Windows7. I will carry on using Mac OSX mostly, and run XP or 7 in a VM.  
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