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ceharden
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Whether or not the plots are exactly as the real thing, you can still tell which drivers are suitable for this type of cabinet.
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CHAMPION
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What about the 21 Version X1 ????
Any one made one ? im willing got some PD 2150's ready and standing by
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Mircea Bartic
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ROG I am aware that the plots are not ideal, but I used your initial driver to calibrate the software
so all the sims Do show if the drivers will work ok (T/S wise) in that design |
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Mircea Bartic
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I'll put them in the program as soon as I have some more spare time |
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levyte357
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I heard the V18-1000 is the baddest guy on the block in this cab. Does that mean drivers with similiar specs (Especially BL/Vas/Xmax/Fs/Coil material) will perform similarily? Would expedite ideal driver identification me thinks. |
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al_x
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the x1 is a really brutal box!
i had no choice but to load one with an eminence sigma pro (600w) due to short notice
its possibly the worst 18" driver i have come across! the cone is made with something that resembles tracing paper.
anyway, we put 800w into it (we also put 800w into the celestion ftr 600w driver and it has been fine!) and it only last about 10-15 hours of use before making very weird farting/rattling noises. we thought it may have been the actual cab as it was newly built, but upon closer inspection, we found that the driver was f**ked!
it now has a huge tear all around the cone.
there was no apparent distortion and our amps/mixer/lms never clip.
... hopefully the 186 we picked up will cope with 800w (will it btw?)
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fuzzylogic
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I have four Void V-18 loaded X1's,driven with two bridged JBL MPX1200 3.2k each at four ohm's. Which ive used for a couple of dubstep nights recently,let me tell those who dont know, the power of the X1's is phenomenal and has to be heard to be beleived.They really do move serious amounts of air and in a 150 capacity club do real damage!I stick a block of two side by side with the other two on top in between 2 Martin 115's ,Phili's and 2" JBL's a side.Both times we've had complaints from the council(not good)for noise poll.The 6'x8' reinforced glass windows flex like you wouldn't believe,the streetlights outside the venue rattle ,and when i bumped into the Chef of the kitchen upstairs the next day, said all his chest freezers were moving around!!Thats another thing ,they like to mingle,spent a lot of the night pushing them back to there original positions after they had migrated onto the danefloor!I love 'em.Cheers Rog.
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NEIGHBOURHOOD SOUNDSYSTEM Infinitely baffled. |
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Ray666
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Ok i think this is the right topic - i was wondering if the l18p300 handles about 1500w + in the x1 or the driver dies?
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levyte357
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Thats the way to do it. Headroom City...
What are those MPX1200's like? They are supposed to be QSC MX3000a
in JBL clothing. Bit Old school, but I'm thinking about looking at these as well.
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fuzzylogic
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Well I dont want to give away a good secret,but they are(in my opinion which is of no consuecence at all ,blah, blah, blah) for the money probably one of the best bargains out there,yes there made by QSC and are quite highly regarded by the profesionals (so im told)I paid £1400 for four spotless MPX 1200's with amp racks worth £200.So £300 each for 3.2K of very clean bass bin battering power.Loads of features, 30hz switchable low pass(Handy for scoops etc...)Stable down to 2 ohms... THX approved...to name a few.They were made to run the big 2x18 4685-8 TCB cabs that JBL used to make in the 90's(so im told again!Of which I have an original pair for sale if anyones interested,to f@#?ing big for me,like two X1's together and then a bit more on top!look awesome but dont deliver as well as my Void V-18 loaded X1's) Anyway I'm very pleased with there peformance.Probably very expensive when new!I was gutted to miss one on ebay that went for just over a ton very recently,apparently stuck in bridge(not a prob)but they didn't even mention the switch on the back!(maybe they didn't know about it).
Thats just between you and me right? |
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NEIGHBOURHOOD SOUNDSYSTEM Infinitely baffled. |
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Mike Severloh
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I´m quite sure you know already, but I got to admit the BMS 18n850 does a pretty good job in an X1.
Seems to have moderate efficiency, which lies in between the PD.186 and the big SAMMI 18" ( which sounds good but is not as loud as the others ). All in all my X1 now is very lightweight, so I can handle this modular 4way stack alone again (the rest being smaller horns). |
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Hi Every one
Do you know how well a 15" works in a X1 enclosure?
Do you know the dimension of the cabinet? If you do please can you help me. I want to build one with a 15" speaker
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