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How would I go about mesuring the delays?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2004 at 5:13pm

I use a anayliser that plots the GD. You can also do it with Smaart.

Put in a tone and then click on the calculate distance button. This then gives you how far and hence the time it is from you.

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"GD"?

Wow, that Smaart is expensive software. Is it worth it?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2004 at 7:00pm

You can download the trial and use it for 30 days and decide yourself if it's worth it...

And if it takes you longer than 30 days to measure your delays then you've got problems...

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Originally posted by Dom Dom wrote:

And if it takes you longer than 30 days to measure your delays then you've got problems...

Or a really bad BP6 or higher.... :)

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LOL. So I need to build the speakers first, design filters later? Ok. Thanks for the advice.
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It would be a good idea to consider 'filtering options' BEFORE you get your hands dirty.... Just think about the speakers you're going to use. If it's a 15" and a small 1" HF you know for example that you need to crossover the 1" very high (2kHz and above) and that the 15" won't play good that high.... so you know this wouldn't be a good box.

Or you want to build a 15" 3way cab. So you get an 8" for the midrange, now you have to check what's the lowest frequency the 8" can play well.

I don't mean that you should have the crossover ready before the speaker. I just think that you should know what you want first....

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But the X15 is a 2 way design... A 15" will go up to 2k wont it?

I realise that I need to plan.

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I don't think that a 15" speaker should go higher than 1200Hz. Even that is in many cases too much if you want clear mids. It's plain physics. A cone with voice coil has a certain weight. This weight will act like any accelerated mass. The bigger the cone and the VC, the higher the mass. And the higher the frequency, the higher the acceleration. So high frequencies AND big cone add up to 'not that good at all'.

It is NOT about 'mids are weak in SPL' or 'the freq plot isn't flat', it's more a question of details in sound.

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I understand the problem, and I agree, a three way design, or smaller bass driver would be better, but would Rog design a speaker that wouldnt work well?

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I think the HF driver has a highpass at 2kHz, but the 15" somewhere around 1100 or 1200Hz or such. This is because the HF driver has a big hump around 2kHz and below and the acoustic crossover frequency is much lower than 2kHz.

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Oh.

If the crossover frequencies are set for the designs im using, i dont have to do much planning really.

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