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TechnoChef
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There's always the 184 sub, close to the X1 response but tall rather than wide..
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Jimmer
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I did notice that, although it is closer in size it doesn't seem anywhere near as popular as the x1.......now there has to be a reason for this?
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TechnoChef
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To be fair, I haven't heard the 184 yet, but when pondering building one before I found a few rave reviews on a dubstep forum.
The response says it plays higher than the X1, so I'd assume it sacrifices some SPL for bandwidth?? Backlash, I think, had some 184s. Would be a good person to ask the question of... I was taking the same approach as you, I wanted X1s (because they're brutal!) but wanted them tall rather than wide. I took the chamber volumes and port tunings and redesigned it to be tall (thread about it somewhere). Didn't work out unfortunately, no subbass whatsoever, just tons and tons of 60-70hz! |
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TechnoChef
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I'm going to try to adjust the ports, if that doesn't work I'm going for MS-18s!
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I think I'm in love with your mum.
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Jimmer
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That was my concern too, the 184 plays a larger bandwidth. I would much prefer to have the higher spl to keep up with the rest of the rig. whats the ms-18s? mini staipier sccop?
If I am lucky enough to pick up another pair of F1b's then like ceharden said I could then stack them properly. I'm going to take the plunge....watch this space! Thanks for the info guys. |
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TechnoChef
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Yeah staiper's mini. Looking more tempting the more I read about it. Not really any rub-a-dub sub played on my rig, so I don't know if I'll really need X1 levels of bass. Then again they do sound ridiculously good!!
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I think I'm in love with your mum.
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ceharden
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Surely while you were re-furbing the F1B's you got your tape measure out. Can't that difficult to build another pair?
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Jimmer
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One of the most difficult cabs to get dimensions from. Just couldn't get my head into the horn far enough! the sketch up I did relied heavily on measurements taken with a camera. When I put it onto graph paper to draw it up, something just didn't look right with the phase bung.
I could build one, but thought it would be easier to restore an original. At least I knew it would be correct... |
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Muckerbarnes1
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X1 is a dual bandpass box. To be certain you will be happy with such a choice depends on driver selection for the required parameters/use.
As Kevin correctly states modifying the size is ok as long as Vb and the tuning of vent 1/2 Fb is the same, then it will perform as any other X1. Always try to keep V1/V2 coupled to the ground to aid low energy. This will be more difficult with a narrow box, but OK.
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Billy Dawg.
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Jimmer
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Most popular choice of drivers seem to be either void v18-1000 or PD 1850. Void's prices seem to be a little kinder on the wallet so will no doubt go down the v18 route.
I'll see how I get on with them with the stacking, If it makes that much difference i'll just flip them on their sides. time to start saving the pennies!! |
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Jimmer
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Are there any X1 owners in the Gloucestershire/Wiltshire area that would be willing to hire me a pair for an evening? Preferably with your goodselves as well to show me exactly how good they can sound? all expenses obviously covered and a supply of coffee or beer will be available!
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Friss
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Mine are out in Bristol on Friday if you wanted to come down and listen? It's nearly Gloucestershire
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