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Originally posted by jazomir jazomir wrote:

Just had to remove AVG (2014 Free) - started causing major problems on my XP-driven system after the latest Microsoft security update on Tuesday. Initially thought I might have a Rootkit infection - but several scans (using various antivirus software)  AVG (AVGWDSVC.EXE) started eating into my CPU utilisation, I started having BSODs and eventually had to reboot in safe mode and fully remove AVG to solve the problem. I use BT Cloud for safe offsite storage and can't get this to work locally so may need to contact BT but I still suspect the MS update caused the problem. I will keep you informed of any further info I recieve.



Ditto that Trevor, the latest 2014 AVG just makes XP run rediculiously slowly...i removed mine as well.Now using Avast ,seems much better,no problem.
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Originally posted by Fumper Fumper wrote:

Dont know if this will affect xp users but microsoft will no longer be doing updates for xp after 2013 and as from April 2014 it will no longer be supported :(
April 8th 2014 is the date to remember. There are already warnings of masses of exploit attacks since MS will no longer be issuing security patches/fixes to avoid/repair such problems. It's a pity really when there are literally tens of millions of people still using XP who have no need for a more 'advanced' operating system and the learning curve required with its installation.
Here are a couple of useful links regarding the latest @Tuesday Patch':  http://pcsupport.about.com/b/2013/12/10/patch-tuesday.htm



Edited by jazomir - 15 December 2013 at 7:20pm
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TBH, unless you have every port forwarded on your router to your internal IP and run no AV software, I don't see the issue, I know of 100s of boxes that never recive any updates and none have burst into flames or stolen the family car.

XP is 10 years old, I real terms is 32bit (xp-64 is not that common and driver support, is at best random) so if anyone is using it at the min it is probably on older hardware and if it does what you want now it will do that in 4 years time, I have machines that I have never updated and they work fine...

Personally I will be sticking with W7-x64 for some time, W8 is dead in the water and XP can't deliver the power I need.

But please, no one spend cash just because MS won't be dicking with your OS every 5mins anymore!!!
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So what are you saying that it will be ok/safe to run xp after the April 2014 , only do internet browsing listen to radio, ebay/YT go on my bank ect , as i said earlier very basic usage...dont need it to any more high tec stuff, 

only asking as i do not know what all this tec-talk is about pcs...

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pretty much, run a decent AV/intrusion prevention package, I use Norton Internet Security for most single machines, keep that up to date, don't download dodgy stuff and you will be fine, I had a NT 4 server running until last year, I don't know if NT ever updated, I know it didn't even have the lastest service pack on it, worked fine, replaced with a dual Xeon machine that runs about 10 x faster and generates about a third the heat!!!!!

Thinking back, that dual P3 Xeon box must have cost a few quid in electricity over the 15 years it was in my loft!!!
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Thanks Shag,

im on Virgin Media Security allways have been,  dont know if that still sufficient still?
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I use virgin as an ISP but I have no idea what their security is like, but I am assuming it is fine as it is not in their interests to have the support impact of a crap package...
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Back to Ian's original statement, it's from "Patch Tuesday"...

which Micro$oft should rename "Patch Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. During which time your PC will be almost unusable, even though we won't put anything on your screen to warn you of what's happening. And we'll see just how many times we can make you restart your PC without you writing a snotty email to the Customer Services team".

Admittedly, "Patch Tuesday" is bit 'catchier'!
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C'mon guys,

Just get a 4gb Core 2 Duo/Quad DELL machine, and upgrade to Windows '7 for free.

Leave all these XP woes behind. Wink
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

C'mon guys,

Just get a 4gb Core 2 Duo/Quad DELL machine, and upgrade to Windows '7 for free.

Leave all these XP woes behind. Wink



mine is a 4gb core2 duo dell runnin xp one thing though mine doesnt go online its only used to run music when playin out on set Smile
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Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:


Ditto that Trevor, the latest 2014 AVG just makes XP run rediculiously slowly...i removed mine as well.Now using Avast ,seems much better,no problem.
I just got rid of both AVG & AdAware and moved to AVAST. It seems a lot less intrusive and resource hungry than the packages it replaces but I am still having major problems with my HDD light on almost permanently, CPU utilisation still going up & down like a yoyo with no applications running and my BT stuff still doesn't work. My machine is usable - just - but I am determined to find out the root cause of the problem (my money is still on the latest MS Patch Tuesday release, but it's difficult to pin it down conclusively).
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so i've come home for xmas, and am using my trusty EEE netbook running XP....

I have the scvhost issue, but i can't get microsoft update to work, sticks on the 'searching for updates' bit - any tips?

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