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The berry we have is actual the 2500 so maybe one berry and a x3000H will do to start with.

Will using two different amps with different output ratings affect the sound much other than 2 speakers being louder running of the x3000h.
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Just read the link to the budget amp shoot out...
 
the Fp 6400 doesn't really count in there as it was £2K but I feel a few amps in there may rinse it....
 
As for running different amps (may have hi-jacked this thread) just feed them both the same signal on load and then calibrate them so they give the same output voltage (use a true RMS meter like a Fluke 87 for this) not Ideal but will be pretty damm close...
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2007 at 8:20pm
iirc list price is about £330 ish for a new xp3000 sell the ep2500 and put that with the 400 you have and contact andy amp on here, you wont be that far short of what you need for a pair, either that or id imagine a pair 2nd hand will cost about £500 ish
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James303 do as saul recommends as this is what i,m in the process of doing...But i.ll be linking x3 xp3000h running x6 scoops....U wont be dissapointed gauranteed...Dont bother with all these big silly priced fancy amps ie QSC ..This set up will surely blow away most 6k amps.....Better sound especially bottom end, then you ask them to come and play with ya....Keep a look out on ebay for second hand xp3000h amps they come now and again but not reguler as no one wants to sell them ...Or if you have the funds buy new x2 xp3000h from andy amp ebay shop   amps-4u ...He might do a special for you ..single buy will be 499 each new....second hand around 340 (if you find any) good luck regards billWink
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and remember all the specs that andy gives for the matrix amps are fairly conservative. when we put 1000w into 8ohms in one of our bins, the sound is monsterous!! - they're worth itThumbs%20Up
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There is no such amp that can be classified as DADDY OF ALL AMPS thats why amps have link points to create what ever power out put you need for your requirments... I could link x10 xp3000h mmmmm sounds tempting Big%20smile ya wanna play..........

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that'd be awesome!

 
i think i'll probs buy more of these amps in the near future.....
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Originally posted by bill-77 bill-77 wrote:

There is no such amp that can be classified as DADDY OF ALL AMPS thats why amps have link points to create what ever power out put you need for your requirments... I could link x10 xp3000h mmmmm sounds tempting Big%20smile ya wanna play..........



Daddy of Amps "usually" refers to an amp that can be relied upon to deliver "beaucoup  sub" to a 2ohm stereo load all night, while still being relaxed enough to chat to ladies at the gig as well.

Most recent Daddies where Crest 9001 and Crown Vz5.

But the PL6/PL9 are sposed' to be a bit 'tasty.



Edited by levyte357 - 08 November 2007 at 2:02pm
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Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Originally posted by bill-77 bill-77 wrote:

There is no such amp that can be classified as DADDY OF ALL AMPS thats why amps have link points to create what ever power out put you need for your requirments... I could link x10 xp3000h mmmmm sounds tempting Big%20smile ya wanna play..........



Daddy of Amps "usually" refers to an amp that can be relied upon to deliver "beaucoup  sub" to a 2ohm stereo load all night, while still being relaxed enough to chat to ladies at the gig as well.

Most recent Daddies where Crest 9001 and Crown Vz5.

But the PL6/PL9 are sposed' to be a bit 'tasty.

...hi levy thanks for defining and breaking down and explaining my theory, very educational..Levy as being one of the most reconised member in forum with superior knowledge in the sound field can i ask you with all respects what would you personally prefer  using in your rack ,for exsample a single amp running at 2 ohms with sufficient power output pushing x6 or x8 v1200-pd1850 scoops? or x4 single amps in rack,each delivering 1000watts rms in 8ohm operation to each sub ? which set up will reduce the risks of over heating amp/amps and safer with the best sound quality possible when the demand for serious performence is a must ..for exsample christmas and new years in due very soon and you have to do 12-13 hour session non stop full wack playing serious low sub bass with reggae,roots,dubplates,,i,m in the process of building such a soundsystem and your knowledge and advice would be much appreciated  regards billWink
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The PL 9.0 was the Jedi Daddy of all amps... and indeed can be turned down to a PL 6.0 even if the mains lead looked like a hose pipe and wouldn't fit into a powercon...
 
The Vz5 and 9001 are indeed great lo-end amps but some kind of chassis, wheels, gearbox and maybe an enigine to move them would be nice...
 
 
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Originally posted by shangnasty shangnasty wrote:

The Vz5 and 9001 are indeed great lo-end amps but some kind of chassis, wheels, gearbox and maybe an enigine to move them would be nice...


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 ...hi levy thanks for defining and breaking down and explaining my theory, very educational..Levy as being one of the most reconised member in forum with superior knowledge in the sound field can i ask you with all respects what would you personally prefer  using in your rack ,for exsample a single amp running at 2 ohms with sufficient power output pushing x6 or x8 v1200-pd1850 scoops? or x4 single amps in rack,each delivering 1000watts rms in 8ohm operation to each sub ? which set up will reduce the risks of over heating amp/amps and safer with the best sound quality possible when the demand for serious performence is a must ..for exsample christmas and new years in due very soon and you have to do 12-13 hour session non stop full wack playing serious low sub bass with reggae,roots,dubplates,,i,m in the process of building such a soundsystem and your knowledge and advice would be much appreciated  regards billWink


Thanks for that Bill, but I class myself as knowledgable and nothing more. I came to this site to learn, and I am still learning.

Definition of my perfect amp:

In all honesty, if money was no option, I would like to be using the best amp that can deliver 4kwpc @ 2ohms. This would be a conservative 20-20khz rating. It would be able to produce sub that sounds as deep as a vz5000, and it would have a reputation for doing this effortlessly all night. This would allow me to carry 1x amp for 8x cabs like grown up PA guys. It would have dual 250V 16amp power inputs, or a 32A 250V connector thingy.

Unfortunately If the above amp exists, I can't afford it right now. And not all I venues I play in have 3 phase available.

So the next best option is 2x amps that are guaranteed to provide 2k per channel @ 8ohms, or for the short term, 4 amps @ 1k per channel.

No one wants to lug lots of heavy amps about, but until the rest of us  can afford the best 8k amps that do what we want, we have to.



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Forgot to mention, just bought Inf8 Mk1 cheap, cos 1x channel is down.

Its rated about 2400wpc @ 4ohms, so if it can properly slap 2x V18-1200s or 1850's per channel all night. Then I maybe getting another one.
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