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    Posted: 22 August 2007 at 10:55pm
http://www.eighteensound.com/index.aspx?mainMenu=view_product&pid=215

Got few brilliant babies firing a bandpass cabs.
Totally satisfied by their lightweight and pressure!

What can they do being installed in a pair of Punishers I'm about to build?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote toastyghost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2007 at 11:42pm
I don't know much about this, but from what I've picked up about the Punisher and suitable drivers this speaker might not have the Xmax needed, and the cone might not be strong enough?

Don't take my word for it though!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote everdark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2007 at 8:00am
As far as I know Ciare doesn't produce 12.00sw anymore.
What Xmax will be enough for Punisher?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VPAS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2007 at 2:23pm
im pretty sure the ciares are still in production
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote everdark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2007 at 9:30pm
I was told that just recently by our (rus) only dealer.

so my question is active  - what excursion must I demand ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sibulus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 August 2007 at 11:29am
Originally posted by everdark everdark wrote:

I was told that just recently by our (rus) only dealer.

so my question is active  - what excursion must I demand ?


Ciare lie, a lot. PAP couldn't get hold of 4ohm 12's for me, as apparantly the Ciare guy reckoned they didn't make them, which of course they do. They just couldn't be arsedt sort out a small order. In terms of other drivers, read Mircea Birtec (sp?) thread about his version of the punishers.
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The predicted SPL response looks good....
 
Eighteensound 12LW1400 in Punisher
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Contour Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2007 at 11:47am
I agree, TS parameters are OK. The 12LW-1400 is a serious 12" driver.
 
But I do not know if the cone will stay one part with high power usage over longer time. The only way to find out is to try.
 
Also make sure you have at least 2cm behind magnet vent en the panel behind the speaker for proper cooling.
 
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Walt,

Have you also considered drivers such as the  B&C 12TBX100?  Simulations look good and the cone should be quite strong (not as much as the Ciare obviously).

Having looked at it, especially if you don't need the very lowest output from the Punisher, there are drivers which will give it a slightly flatter response and higher efficiency.

I would try some other drivers if I didn't already have the Ciares in mine.

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I fancy this as the No1. contender?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote everdark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2007 at 9:20am
I don't trust rubber suspension with woofers, it's just the easy way to reach Xmax, I think. By the way I never met these speakers over around.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mykey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2007 at 3:35pm
Well your wrong there old chap
I think the rubber surround is most suited to the 'punisher'.
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