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Originally posted by ToXiC ToXiC wrote:

No the kilomax would sound crap in scoops.

I'd say the C-sub where it says you can use them as one of the drivers to choose from.

Toxic: ported/bp6 will be real boomy with this woofer. Thiele,or some one like him reccomended Qts<0.45 or something. Maybe he wants boom tho ;-)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Umney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 October 2005 at 11:50pm

Well Rog on those plans says the Eminence Kilomax can be used in the C-sub.

Although generally Eminence Kilomax is pretty unsuitable for most boxes.

 



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That driver will sound much better in a BP4 than a BP6A.
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Originally posted by ToXiC ToXiC wrote:

Well Rog on those plans says the Eminence Kilomax can be used in the C-sub.

Rog also said that he doesn't recommend it anymore.

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I Think They Would Work Very Well In The EV T18 Design With A Little Modification, Can Some One Share Their Technical Expertise, Another Thing Electro Voice Had Modified The T18 To The SB180.
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What Is The BP4
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A 4th order bandpass enclosure (BP4). Similar to the 'C' sub shown above, but with only one chamber ported.

The 'C' sub is a BP6A, a BP6B has a port from one chamber to the other, and then one port to the outside.

All three types are sensitive to the T/S parameters of the drivers, and no substitutes should be made without checking in a box modeling program.

The Kilomax 18 does not model well in a BP6A.



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dont bother putting kilomax's in T18's mate
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mobiele eenheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2006 at 10:12am

I did model Kilomax in 6th order BP(A) (iirc something like 120 ltr tuned to 45 Hz and 80 ltr to 75 Hz) it did look pretty impressive SPL-wise and powerhandling, just horrible groupdelay.

My guess would be that it will sound much better if the second chamber is around 40 ltr tuned to 200 -300 Hz. Would behave like BP6/BR-hybride. Less SPL but much less groupdelay and less peaky aswell. Also less distortion from cone movement.

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The group delay is simply a function of the frequency response.

A simple sealed box with a low-pass filter of the same roll-off rate and same frequency has the same group delay.

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