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    Posted: 11 November 2012 at 10:53pm
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can anyone give me the name of the actual cab, ive been searching the internet with some results pdf's ect..

but im getting confused am i right is it a sentry IV , senrty IVb, ect ect when it has the original mid/high horn tweets ect.
also got numbers tl4025.....tl4050 ect..


.its loaded with twin 12" drivers (not original) and with my own horn tops ect.sounds nice driven with my V800Big smile

also can anyone recomend drivers closest to the Originals..

so can anyone give me some proppa details on it...
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Here is a link to the EV discontinued speaker system page. I think the cab is a Sentry IV but can't see it listed there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jbl_man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 November 2012 at 9:28am
Im guessing original drivers would have been probually DL12x ,(but the OEM version without the finned magnet cover)? That was their mainstay 12" from around this period. 12inch paper cone and 2.5inch voice coil.....anyone suggest a modern replacement?
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Thanks for your repley still.

i would love to get some drivers that are the closest T/s Parameters to the original tho

is the ev DL12x still in production? or is that a stupid question.
but ive seen Electro Voice EV DL12X Recone Kits on the net.
been digging though my pc and found someone has mentioned these before but cant find it now sadly.

i bet too these drivers would cost a small fortune yes/no? 

Quoted by someone T/s Parameters.
Original EV driver (two 12s)
Fs=45hz
Qms=9.5
Qes=0.215
Qts=0.210
Vas=5.06 cu. ft

EV-DL12X T/s Parameters.
fs: 56 Hz
VAS: 77 liters (2.73 ft3)
QES: 0.24
QMS: 7.47
QTS: 0.24
h0: 4.54%
LE: 2.0 mH
CMS: 0.18 mm/N
VD (SD x Xmax): 1.04 liters (0.036 ft3)

so its not that drastically different. any thoughts/opinions.would these work ok in sed cab?


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just checked out e-bay theres plenty on there From the USA tho , way to much postage




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote To Old Now Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2013 at 9:24pm
THey was going the same time as the eliminator1A. Its notb a 4025 or 4050 which is 1x15" & 2x15" and a very large cab But they do work they had DL15 in them. We only used 1 for sub in the install aprox 300-400 people. It closed in 2 years and moved the cab in to main venue 2000-2500 people.
I am suprised there is not more people used them! It walks all over a MT4. its just the size.
Any way back to the W bin I think it was loaded with 2x EVM12L which is not a bass speaker. I have plans some where in my files.
Used by EV for jazz festivals in the 70's and early 80's. Give me some time and i will see what i can find in my files.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote To Old Now Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2013 at 11:43pm
Right the cab is a TL5050 When with horns it become's a Sentry 1V BR drivers are EVM 12L like i said though the response is only down to 50HZ  121DB at 10ft at full power 100-800HZ mid power.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dub Specialist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 January 2013 at 9:17am
Thanks for the Info much appreciated Thumbs Up.,still might try the EV-DL12X Driver in them one day..Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote audiomik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 January 2013 at 9:56am
Try a couple of ATC 12" BLCR's in them, they certainly worked very well many years ago and were a marked improvement over the EVM's..... used the first version of these cabs.

Also had a pair of the separate Sentry 4 horn mid/top boxes, Hf drivers were mounted in the centre of the Mid Horn. Think that the Mid Compression driver was the 1823(?) - screw fit. The UK EV distributor in Brighton did a moulding of the Mid Horn as well which I had 2 of, although these didn't have the mounting points for the HF Driver/Horn, and managed to get some free time in the Bath Uni Architectural Department Anechoic Chamber to test them properly back then.
Anyway, was playing with designs for analog active Xovers with BBD delays back then so achieved more control compared with the passives.
Had a Beyer Ribbon mic (M260?) and a Bruel and Kjaer Millivoltmeter for sinewave response tests as well......

Long gone now, but very good at the time with lots of learning gained about active systems back in the 1970's which still apply today!

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thanks mik for a another alternative, there not for sound pa sound use i  just like the vintage sounds playing around with different cabs in the summer ect...cheers
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I found this in my files. I hope it helps you.
You want it when?
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Originally posted by To Old Now To Old Now wrote:

I found this in my files. I hope it helps you.
Those old EV cabs were very pretty. The Eliminator 1A always looked really professional (didn't really sound it, though) and the Jumbo Hi cab looks impressive. I remember having the whole of this catalogue way back when - along with a classy Altec  catalogue from around the same era.
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