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ten ant
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Topic: powering a pair of void v18 1000'sPosted: 03 April 2012 at 3:47pm |
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having alot of trouble finding a 2000w two channel amp where each channel can give out 1000watts at 8ohms, everything i find is alway at 4ohms so i was wondering how people normally power v18's as i know they are a popular choice for bass and are only mde as an 8ohm driver. im quite new to all this so any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
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Posted: 03 April 2012 at 3:56pm |
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Be careful.
You will find people recommending amps that have huge published figures, yet performance on sub turns out to be weak. One reason being, amp specs are for output at 1khz. ![]() Send PMs to people you know have Voids, and they know which amps drive them well... What's your budget & music material? |
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Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:17pm |
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budget on the amp alone or the whole setup? and mostly drum and bass, jungle and bit of dub reggae thanks
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Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:21pm |
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i use jbl mpa's in bridge to power my voids, thats always works for me, have also used cv 2800 bridged at 8ohm per bin and was very effective, but 4 amps for 4 bins is a lot of kit.... many possibilitys but as lev said make sure they got the juice |
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Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:46pm |
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what cab are they in?
i use them in X1s, have used matrix xp3000 on them, a friend hires EV p3000... but he's also on a budget so looking to buy a thomann proline 3000. most amps that call themselves "3000 watt amp" will do about 1000w a side at 8 ohms and about 1500w a side at 4 ohms. narrow down your list of candidates and read up on them. i use pkn xd4000s on them now, good fun. |
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Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:53pm |
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Powering 2 voids from one amp isn't ideal...
You are better off getting a big-man amp and running 2 PER SIDE. If you don't have something for the other side of the amp then use it to run your kick/mids and save amp channels there (obviously you need to keep that channel attenuated appropriately). Proline 2700 may be an option for bridge 4 ohm.... but I've not tried it. I know proline is good in 4 ohm per channel but please get some feedback from someone who has actually used it in 4 ohm bridge mode. Basically, the problem you have is that 2 voids is a big load. You either need a BIG amp to run them both off a single channel (4 ohm load), or a SOLID amp to run them both bridged (4 ohm load). BIG or SOLID are not cheap. If weight and size isn't an issue then the best option is actually two amps, both running in bridge driving an 8ohm load. This keeps the amps happy and you can use much cheaper amps and still get lots of power. For example, years ago I used Peavey PV-2600 amps, one per v18-1000 in this configuration and they did the business! Heavy as hell, but they worked! - Cheap too. Try to get amps on loan from people local to you if possible and work out what you like. |
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Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:57pm |
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^What Jbinks just said.
Except, dudes playing Dnb sets often end up playing to massive crowds, which may mean 6x or more subs. And Proline 2700 weighs 5.5 stones (35kg) each, so 16.5 stones (105kg) of sub amps to drive 6x subs, may be less than desirable. ![]()
In that case, not only do you need an amp that will deliver the goods, it needs to be strong enough to do it regularly without blowing up. List of suitable amps has just shrunk. How many drivers in total do you have, and budget for sub amps to driver them ? Edited by levyte357 - 03 April 2012 at 5:06pm |
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Posted: 03 April 2012 at 9:46pm |
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if you can afford it id go for something big , like a crown MA5002vz or a void infinate 8.
ive used allsorts to power mine including a coupls of PV2600 bridged , a QSC RMX2450. an opus ka3000 etc etc , none smashed it out quite like our inf8s do. the benefit being you will only need one amp and will still need only one if you buy more v18s
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Posted: 05 April 2012 at 2:03pm |
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thankyou everyone for the help
, but to be honest i only have the two drivers, and they are all i need for now, and i am on abit of a budget even though i will keep in mind everything you have told me about big amps, for the future when i get more drivers. what do you think would work better in this case, a pair of the pv2600's or a thomann proline 3000? also i would like to know more about bridging and wattage and ohm law, (as i said i am quite new to all this) because after reading the spec of the pv2600 and the pv1500 it said that the 1500 bridged gives out 1000w at 8ohm and the 2600 bridged gives out 1800w at ohms and you lot have recommended the 2600 even though the void v18s are 1000w rms. call me a noob but im a little confused haha cheers
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Posted: 05 April 2012 at 2:07pm |
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stay away from the pv series amps. better off with a proline/mpa/mpx1200,qsc 4050hd etc. friend might have a qsc 4050hd for sale soon
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Posted: 05 April 2012 at 5:52pm |
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+1 on the mpa's and mpx's which are pretty much the qsc 4050hd anyway
never had a problem powering my voids and the only ever problem i get is complaints from local residents |
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