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    Posted: 07 November 2007 at 4:25pm
We are in the process of buying 4 1850's to be loaded with void18-1000's

At the moment we have a

Behringer EUROPOWER EP1500


plus a budget of about £400 to power all four cabs.

What would poeple recomend doing i am not sure i want to keep the berry as i am not really a fan of the sound it puts out, is it worth selling to try to finance buying either one or two new/second amps to power the cabs.

Plus what is around for the £400-500 price range that suits this set up.

Sorry if this is topic has already been covered.

Thanks in Advance.
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I'd save up a bit more tbh, and get something stronger.
Good brand 2nd hand > less good brand new
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Matrix XP3000?

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we have an xp3000 per pair so for four its not goin to be enough. save up for two the xp3000 and link them. one bin per channel at 8 ohms - 1000w+ per driver . Thumbs%20Up
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Kind of stuck with the fact that we will need to hire out the rig the get the funds togeather to upgrade to better amps over time.

Any idea how much xp3000 go for second hand so we can use one with the berry to start with then upgrade to two of them in time.
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Then... I am afraid it is two berry 2500. Bridge each one and run two boxes off it...
 
I am assuming you know how bridged amps run, you will need either a NL4 lead wired weird into Speakon one or use the binding posts.. If you know a bout this cool, if you haven't done it before check you get it right, my mate bridged his sub amp wired the speakers in normally and got jack sh*t as they were completely out of phase... I kid you not...
 
The berry amps are £220 inc VAT from DV247.com you won't do a lot better from pro-audio stockist as they have toss all margin and if you buy retail they will swap them out for you in the event of a problem....
 
I run these into Turbo TSW718 (one per box, it being a 4r box) with great results, we have now sacked the Lap Gruppen 6400 for lack of balls!
 
Failing that try SSE for second hand SR707s or John Henrys for XR3801s (phone for a deal the web prices are because John just doesn't like to let go....)
 
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

Then... I am afraid it is two berry 2500. Bridge each one and run two boxes off it...



Less risk running 2x cabs per channel off XP3000H until cash arrives for 2nd, than bridging behringers across expensive drivers.


Every time that red clip light comes on, assume some of the drivers, have been shot in a vital organ, at least once.




Edited by levyte357 - 07 November 2007 at 6:12pm
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

 
I run these into Turbo TSW718 (one per box, it being a 4r box) with great results, we have now sacked the Lap Gruppen 6400 for lack of balls!
 


Shocked..

Do you know anyone in London who has Lab Grup 6400? Sounds like it should be in amp test.LOLLOLLOL
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Clip light??? I read the book and therefore I don't have them!
 
Bit harse, there, 1850s are cheap compared to LS1804s and I haven't had a problem, yeah if you want to rinse it you may, but to be hoest clip a PL 9.0, which is the daddy of amps into your rig and it will tear it apart...
 
The other thing is the EP2500 has amazing resale value, idoits on ebay pay 75% of cost for them, not true of Amcron (which I wouldn't pay 7.5% of cost for), QSC, MC2 etc
 
Set you limiters properly and don't let the dj clip the output of the mixer and you will be fine...
 
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We are in Guildford and have LAB 6400, what ya got if U wanna play???
 
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

We are in Guildford and have LAB 6400, what ya got if U wanna play???
 
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Edited by levyte357 - 07 November 2007 at 6:33pm
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And how we laughed! the truth is LAb G claim all their kit is RMS rated.. but indeed not @ 1KHz... Average music signal...
 
A QSC PL 6.0 has a 16A Iec in and 2.5mm cable the 6400 has a bit of 1.5mm pvc hanging out the back...
 
Now I am not Paul F**king daniels so I am think 6Kw (ish) from 1.5mm (say 15Amps @ 240) is knocking on 400% efficiency which could be the answer to gobal warming!!
 
 
is their spec sheet, truth is, great amp, you can program the bitch to give full power into a 16ohm load if you want.. Handy... Light, fast, punchy, great for Mid-Hi, even bass but not worth a wank for sub...
 
4 EP2500 ran 8 or 9db ahead of a 6400 running 4x TSW718 now I accept the the EP should be giving 9K6 and the lab is only 6K4 but the sound quality was miles apart, bearing in mind I was running the 718 under 760s so they run up to 180Hz which isn't running them as subs IMHO the Lab was soft, mushy nad vague whilst the EPs were really quick punchy nad well on it...
 
Good amps, they look nice on your sub amp, which shouldn't have a Lab Gruppen Badge!
 
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