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    Posted: 07 April 2008 at 4:34pm

I currently have a pair of Numark Axis 9s and i love them. Great to use and have only just got a slight problem after quite a few years of use. The thing i'm wondering is basically, whether i should get vinyl decks instead...

My reason is, is the avalibilty of some tunes. I mix mainly Jungle, Ragga Jungle, Breakcore etc. and finding vinyls for these types of music is extremely easy but finding CD's or Wavs or 320kbps MP3s is absolutely imposible. I have searched for ages for free and paid versions and can rarely find any. Another slight annoying reason is, is that some of my friends find CD decks to be 'not true to the sound', not that it's swaying me.
 
So is it really worth going for vinyls just because songs are easier to find?
 
Also baring in mind that CDJs have probably got more future, and what about computer mixing things like Traktor and all the new stuff...?
 
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Vinyl is a little different to CDs in terms of sound, but nothing to get excited about IMO. The features you get with CD decks for mixing and the weight loss of your record bag more than make up for it.

Why not buy the records you want, rip them to .wav using a PC and a good external soundcard then burn them to CD. You can keep the .wav file in case you loose or damage the CD and sell the vinyl on again (perhaps to a vinyl loving friend?)
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Yup, I'm with Owain.  That's a good use for Tracktor/Final scratch etc.  Rip your vinyl onto a laptop so it's the same quality as the original but easier to carry.
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D & B, I hate it, BUT, I take my hat off to it for sticking with vinal. CD's DO sound clinical. Mixing on CD's with all the effects is ruining dancefloors, too many DJ's with their heads up their ****.
 There is an old saying among mobile type DJ's, "Make the girls dance and the rest will look after it's self"
 Vinal is more tactile, sounds much better and the dancfloor benefits from nice mixing from within it's obvious constraints. Some D & B DJ's are highly talented at timing drops etc on vinal without the aid of loops and such like. S0, get your Numark repaired, get some 1200/1210's as well and join the gym. Or get an MC to carry your records, you know they wanna be DJ's reallyLOL
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I hate vinyl Angry
 
CDJ's all the way !!!!!!!!!!
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Meh, any proper DJ with a hint of talent and a pair of CDJs will rock the house just as much as any DnB DJ with vinyl.

Decent CDJ DJs hate the overuse of effects that plagues current dancefloors too y'know. Also I would blame the DJM600/800 for this a lot quicker than any CDJ. I'm growing to really dislike the flange effect on those.
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Originally posted by odc04r odc04r wrote:


Why not buy the records you want, rip them to .wav using a PC and a good external soundcard then burn them to CD. You can keep the .wav file in case you loose or damage the CD and sell the vinyl on again (perhaps to a vinyl loving friend?)


I never thought of that, best idea i've heard in a long while. 

I'm not really into DJing for skills if it were put that way. Just to be good at mixing and selecting tunes. Not to say that scratching and stuff isn't impressive.

CDJ decks are also so much smaller and sleeker looking IMO. Will be staying then.

Thanks for the suggestions.

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Originally posted by odc04r odc04r wrote:

Meh, any proper DJ with a hint of talent and a pair of CDJs will rock the house just as much as any DnB DJ with vinyl.

Decent CDJ DJs hate the overuse of effects that plagues current dancefloors too y'know. Also I would blame the DJM600/800 for this a lot quicker than any CDJ. I'm growing to really dislike the flange effect on those.


Another thing i'm agreeing with you on.

The axis9 has some good effects, but they sound so cheesy, if i wanted to use a flange or phaser i'd want to use it on one aspect of the music, such as vocals or drums. Other effects like reverse are good, but then you have the problem that you're now a bar behind, not a big issue but if it's a well known song theres a slight limbo period.

Without souding too cliche, i guess at the end of the day it is the music and vibe that counts.
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CDJ1000s and DJM800... DJM800 just for the roll effect... I don't use the phaser tho.
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vinyl all the way. if need to play digital music get serato for a small cost only £320 on ebay. ledgend use the money you have saved to buy some technics. you wont regret it.
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To elaborate a little bit on my mates post!

I have a pair of 1210's which I prefer mixing on to anything else I've ever used. Even CDJ-1000s.

CD's are NOT the way forward IMHO. I really think that Vinyl is the ultimate medium for DJ use. You cant be a scratch DJ and use CDJ's!!

Serato is an absolutely fantastic bridge between the world of analogue and digital technologies. A scratch DJ can still put stickers all over the vinyl as cue markers and mix tunes without just pressing buttons and looking at LCD screens...

I just use my decks as I always have, except when looking for my next tune I have to flick through virtual crates on a laptop screen instead of my record box. I also keep my real vinyl for use at home and just bypass serato when I wanna play that tune!

Think about it...

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If you never started out on vinyl your not a real dj!!!!!
 
Cdjs are good but the feel of vinyl is something else!!!!
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