I need a smoke/haze machine

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   hi guys 

I need a good smoke or haze machine for use with my new laser lighting rig

I would like something with a timer so i can set it and leave it all night or possibly dmx control, can anyone offer any advice?

i mainly want to use it for big shows, so 600 to 2000 people is my aim

Cheers

HBL

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Heathrow_B_line Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 11 January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7339	Post Options Post Reply Quote Heathrow_B_line Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: I need a smoke/haze machine Posted: 07 September 2008 at 10:22pm
	hi guys I need a good smoke or haze machine for use with my new laser lighting rig I would like something with a timer so i can set it and leave it all night or possibly dmx control, can anyone offer any advice? i mainly want to use it for big shows, so 600 to 2000 people is my aim Cheers HBL
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pk1964 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 21 February 2008 Location: Warrington Status: Offline Points: 269	Post Options Post Reply Quote pk1964 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 September 2008 at 10:28pm
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Heathrow_B_line Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 11 January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7339	Post Options Post Reply Quote Heathrow_B_line Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 September 2008 at 10:55pm
	can you post a link up to the model you are referring too.. would it fill a large marquee with smoke/haze?
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csg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 17 September 2007 Location: bedford Status: Offline Points: 6085	Post Options Post Reply Quote csg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 September 2008 at 11:06pm
	with a decent fan, yes. good machine

whitehousejamie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 08 March 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1485	Post Options Post Reply Quote whitehousejamie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2008 at 1:53pm
	I use the Martin Magnum hazer which i'm quite happy with. Also have a look at the Look Solutions Unique 2 hazer, and the Le Maitre units.
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bitzo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 20 November 2007 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 977	Post Options Post Reply Quote bitzo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2008 at 2:06pm
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odc04r Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 12 July 2006 Location: Sarfampton Status: Offline Points: 5469	Post Options Post Reply Quote odc04r Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2008 at 3:45pm
	We use a JEM technofog, much better than the crappy cheap foggers and with fairly good output. No DMX but it does have timer/output level controls on the remote. Edit - just saw 600-2000 people, too small for that methinks. Edited by odc04r - 08 September 2008 at 3:46pm

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	Smoke Factory Tour Hazers are my current favourite. Nice haze, good DMX control of fan and haze output. Obviously not a cheap option as it's a professional unit but Used Lighting have one ex demo for just under £600 at the moment. Probably worth it if you're going to be using it regularly. Quite compact and can be tipped while filled with fluid!

norty303 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 18 August 2004 Location: Eastbourne Status: Offline Points: 8800	Post Options Post Reply Quote norty303 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2008 at 5:35pm
	Ona budget, I've had a lot of success with one of these: http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_sf1500_nebelmaschine.htm They do a 3kw version too. Comes with DMX and timer remote and will output continuously on 20% if need be. I bought an 18" metal fan from ebay for £30 to help the smoke disperse around the venue. Works very well and MUCH cheaper than proper smoke fans.
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csg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 17 September 2007 Location: bedford Status: Offline Points: 6085	Post Options Post Reply Quote csg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2008 at 6:41pm
	for versatility and low running costs you are far better with a good quality fog machine and fan rather than a hazer if you want haze, then run it slowly and spin out the output with a fan if you want fog, then turn it up! I use an effects company supersmoke with a 18" blower for my bigger jobs - for a tent of 2500 capacity, then it will be running at 25% continuously for a decent haze, and will get thru 2.5l of fluid per 6 hours ( effects company dense grade) the secret is having a good quality machine - anything by unique, smoke factory, jem , le maitre and effects company should be fine

Heathrow_B_line Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 11 January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7339	Post Options Post Reply Quote Heathrow_B_line Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 October 2008 at 6:33pm
	thanks for the info guys i will have a look around the shops and see what i can find
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	Hi, I use a Martin Magnum 2000 mackhine. Produces a lot of smoke in very little time. If I go to a venue when they don t allow smoke I use My Jem Stage Hazer. Both have variable output and timer. I might be selling my stage Hazer soon - don t get enough use out of it as we usually take out the Martin Magnum.