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Father-Francis 
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I know it says that use the P audio drivers, but there must be one or two more drivers that are better
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Posted: 22 May 2009 at 3:42pm |
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what do you mean by better?
Higher power handling, harder kick, lower extension or nicer sound??
what is it that you want from the cab? IMO using the SD18 in the ES18-BPH is a waste of a good sub driver.
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Father-Francis
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Posted: 22 May 2009 at 3:52pm |
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a harder kick to start with and kind of low so if use in 4 can do subs
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Posted: 22 May 2009 at 4:19pm |
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4 of them is never going to get low enough to do proper sub. Most people have been using these as upper bass cab so I dont think there has been much experimentation as to how low they get with different drivers. |
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Posted: 22 May 2009 at 4:25pm |
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There is a french sound system called infraktion who have built several double versions. I am not sure which driver they are using but I was extremely suprised by how low they appeared to go. Their sound reminded me of the funktion one bin and they sounded significantly fuller than the USB.
I am not sure whether it was the driver or the design but I was suprised by how different they sounded to a similar opile of USBs.
I do not have huge experience of either but I think that as a tough Kick cab the USB is hard to beat, but the ES18-BPH does better as an all round bin in an extremly compact size.
I should add that it is likely that either will give the sound you want if you choose the right driver for the job.
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me so horny, me love you long throw.
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Posted: 31 May 2009 at 8:20pm |
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I have been looking at building some USB/ES18s for ages,
does anybody have any real world plots of a single USB using the intended Celestion driver? (i tried using search) or even just the sensitivity,max spl and -3dB points. Also anybody with experience of both, which would you recommend? I am looking at building either in singles for use under 12s or 15s for bands(2-4 per side), and on other occasions above X1's for house music/hard dance. Might one day build some labs to go under them for outdoor use too. I am aware of the HD15/X1 combination for house and the HD meaning hard dance, but th HD15 won't be much cop in pairs under a 12" for bands, whereas a usb/es18 will. Also where are we sourcing our p.audio C650 drivers atm? cheers and thanks s. |
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gwarntek
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Posted: 31 May 2009 at 9:29pm |
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Yeah ive gone for a smilar thing Swen, to use ES18s alone under tops for some things, and then add X1s underneath for other types of music/ bigger gigs etc...
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levyte357
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Posted: 31 May 2009 at 10:55pm |
Venues/music play on my set, I could never get away with just ES18s. Its either 2 scoops and just Midtops, or 4x scoops, kick, mids. |
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Posted: 01 June 2009 at 1:35am |
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Peoples need are different I guess... ;)
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Posted: 01 June 2009 at 11:02am |
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yeah if i was playing bass heavy music, dub etc then its all about the sub
but for live bands and stuff a wider freq range is needed. same as using a stack of USBs...
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Father-Francis
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Posted: 02 June 2009 at 10:28pm |
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what´s the best driver for the Usb so far?
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Posted: 02 June 2009 at 10:31pm |
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You mean apart from the recommended celestion one? Also does anyone happen to know the differences between the USB and ES18 regarding volumes and horn lengths/expansion (not physical dimensions though)
Sorry im a bit lazy and havent worked it out myself...
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