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opus jody
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Topic: front loaded 3 way mid topsPosted: 04 April 2009 at 1:06pm |
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Hi.
I've been running the 1st prototype of the opus cs850 for a couple of years now, to good effect. my own hyper-critical criticism of them would be that the high mid & top are fractionally too loud, in that they run about -6dB on the opus amps, compared to the bass which runs at 0dB, which is fine, but i've got a theory that if the speakers were quieter I could run the amps louder, and closer to the limit, so with live music I could rely on the opus amps' limiter to sort out any 'loud bits' in the live music & do away with comp/limiters on a lot of the channels. Also, the low mid is not really having it on the CS's. I've overcome that up to now by running a 2x15 'wheelie bin' per side (sometimes 2) up to 180 Hz, and running central subs up to 80Hz. so, a possible solution: just one high mid cone per box instead of 2, custom engineered to become a duel concentric for the stunning new opus 1.4" comp. Then both top. (without it's horn) & hi mid should be somewhere around 3dB quieter. then, as they're both so much smaller, there's space for 2 x 10" bass/low mid cones beneath them. a 3 way box. probably end up passive between the hi mid & top. here's the 1st one next to a CS850, and also 2 x single cone low mid boxes to compare drivers & compare ported vs sealed. just waiting for some more samples to turn up. ![]() ![]() ![]() also had the idea (thanks mykey) of rounding the fronts to minimise edge diffraction, and to make the internals more cylindrical, cylinders being 2nd best to spherical. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm not going to go into the drivers used, 2 of them are oem's anyway, at least not for the moment, but it's quite an interesting idea for the diyer as duel concs can be bought complete, and a simpler trap box could be an easy build for anyone. more to follow after driver & box shape listening tests. |
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nickyburnell
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Posted: 04 April 2009 at 6:13pm |
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Posted: 22 May 2009 at 10:18pm |
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how are you planing on wireing the sub!!. . . . . . .
1 driver would be at 8ohms
2 drivers would be at 4ohms
3 drivers would be ar 2ohms
but at 2 ohms is it stable?? or is their another way of wireing
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Posted: 22 May 2009 at 10:44pm |
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3 8 ohm drivers would be 2.7ohms.... 3 x 16 ohm drivers in parallel would be 5.3 ohms or so though...
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Posted: 22 May 2009 at 11:42pm |
from what i read, he is going to have the new midtops two way active (with a passive split between the midhi and comp).
looks like a lovely concept, and i love the rebated edges, scherical internals etc... Cant wait to hear the finished product.
ps: i really do love your cottage jody, such a nice location and building
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opus jody
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Posted: 26 May 2009 at 2:37pm |
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^ what he says.
4 ohms 'bass' (low mid) 8 ohms hi mid 8 ohms HF. not sure about passive or active mid tops yet. with active it's easier to do time allignment, although it might not be necessary with a duel conc. with 3 tops a side I should be able to run the 3 passive mid tops off one channel and 3 channels of low mid. this is where the split amps come in useful. 1250/500 1250/1250 or maybe a 1250 channel for the duel concs if it needs any more welly. if i run it active, then low mid 1250/500 HF 2 x low mid 2500/1250 hi mid still waiting for cones .![]() Edited by opus jody - 26 May 2009 at 7:14pm |
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 1:07am |
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any news opus?
on the cabs btw they look lovely |
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 8:56pm |
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Temporarily on the back burner, due to not yet finding a 10" high bass cone to die for. also, there's a bit of a carpet crisis going on, ABTT show on now (theatre), 2 touring rigs & a club install in London to build, aaand festival chaos.
I've accepted now that they aren't going to be ready for this season, so I'm just doing the odd 1/2 hour on them at the end of the days work, & looking for more cones. 10 inch, 400/500w, more than 96dB eff at 100Hz, 60Hz - 500Hz, copper coil (or copper clad), neo magnet. any ideas i haven't thought of? |
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 10:29pm |
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Faital Pro have some tasty ones that might fit the bill, if you can get them. Not sure on coil material, but they have models bettwen 3-700watt, good xmax and suitable efficiency.
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Posted: 11 June 2009 at 1:31am |
![]() nice, thanks. Another Italian quality cone builder. might have to emmigrate. Watch out for the flu Jeth! |
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 7:24pm |
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