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    Posted: 13 May 2008 at 11:37pm
Right, i know its not one of my projects, but i have to say... Hats of to THE AUSTRALIAN PINK FLOYD SHOW....
 
Saw thier recent show at the nia, and the sound was second to none.... they used half the arena (which i think did the sound some MASSIVE favours) and i think the production was by Wigwam.
 
they were using martin line array, i think it was the w8lc... looked bigger than the w8lm... and they used d&b b2 subs and the sound was exceptional. far far better than many other shows i've seen at the nia (jeff wayne's war of the worlds, with a massively expensive system being a notably bad one).
 
Had a great night, good sound, in an arena!
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from my experience of wigwam they know what they are doing.
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Longbow's probably the best sounding array out there.
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Only time I've ever heard Longbow was about 16 boxes/side and it was awful....
However I'm willing to believe it was the people running it causing the issues!
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we have 16 Martin Audio W8L, 8 per side. Far better sounding cabinet than anything we have heard
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THE AUSTRALIAN PINK FLOYD SHOW USE A LOT OF D&B LINE ARRAY WITH 6X B2 SUBS ALWAYS IN CENTER OF THE STAGE Thumbs%20Up
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Heard Martin line array with Take That at Newcastle metro arena. Cant say I was that impressed. It was ok.
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I've heard longbow sound less than impressive, but then i've heard it sound second to none. The same applies to alot of systems, those we come to know as being fantastic, don't always sound good, this might be the room, the source material, or the operator, or a mixture of that and other things.
It probably is my favourite array out there, whilst i'm not a line array fan, in situations where it IS the best option then it would be my first choice (when dealing with large arrays not mini stuff).

The smaller the martin arrays get the less impressed i've been, the W8LC is a nice system but i just don't think it has the edge like the longbow. The W8LM i haven't been impressed with at all but i've not used it in many environments so can't really say too much about it.


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Imagine how much better it'd sound if the sound engineers had speaker systems emulating point sources Wink  Line arrays are great if  u want good speech intelligibility everywhere but crap for music.
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Originally posted by roborg roborg wrote:

Imagine how much better it'd sound if the sound engineers had speaker systems emulating point sources Wink  Line arrays are great if  u want good speech intelligibility everywhere but crap for music.


Its crap for dance music.

Play a live rock band on it, those tom toms and snares penetrate your face.
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There's much much MUCH more to it than that.

Line array has its place for speech, for music, for everything, but it's NOT the ideal system for more than i'd say a 1/10 of the jobs its used for.  Laziness and not really knowing the right system to use and how to use it is why the other 9/10 of its uses.

Additionally. Most of most arrays is acting like point source anyway.  Just incredibly un-flexible point source. With only the top sections of the larger arrays really starting to act like a line array.  That all said, the top sections of many point source arrays with 0 degree vertical splays use the same properties as the line arrays anyway. 

Effectively apart from the very top of the array, you get a point source array, without the benefits of a real point source array (true arrayability with flexibility in position in both the vertical AND horizontal planes).

I can penetrate faces with any array :P
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Planning to go for W8LC are they good or should i go for DAS AERO 38


Edited by arxxx - 21 October 2008 at 1:30pm
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