Which cabs?

Hi guys,

me and my friends have a sound system together, we have 4 TSE 118 and 4 TSE 112
which we are running from QSCs.

We also have 2W-bins 2 mids 2tops .... we bought those speakers from e-bay and it was called "Eliminator PA System" ... I once looked into them and threre are some Vietnamese-companie speakers. The don't perform nearly as good as the Turbos but the are ok.
We also run them of the QSCs because we don't have any more amps to run them off.

Now we decided to build our own speakers, but after looking on this site and many more for months now I'm despaired! There are so many speakers to go, USB ,HD15, 1850,186, X1

I know what we will build for Mid-Hi Section the MT121 looks very good and i read it perfomes very good.

My friends want to build the X1... they say they want to crawl into the bass cellar!
I think the X1 is a good decision because the TSE118 don't give the subbass we often need in our musik, and I saw a lot of pictures here on the site with X1s +HD15 together .
And I want to build an X1 since I saw the youtube video from the X1!.

So what would fit better a USB or HD15 or maybe an 1850 instead of X1.

I thought it would be easier to build USBs rather than HD15s but thats not very important for the decision.

Maybe some of you can help me , I never really heard a USB or a HD15, maybe on a party but at that time I wasn't intrested in bass bins, only in the bass :-) .

I hope some of you share their experience with me. :)


Edited by Createk - 16 October 2008 at 4:46pm

QSCs are1x MX 2000 ,2x MX 1500,1x MX 3000a

Build more TSE118 ? I thought plans for commercial bins are quite hard to find, and illegal to have :)
When I could get plans for TSE118s I would build them...they have a great sound.
I was very impressed when i recognized my voice was shaking 10 meters away from the speakers at our last outdoor party.

To the W- System maybe its a ripoff but I saw another original Eliminator-Pa system and it looks exactly the same (from outside) , I don't know how it looks inside (I forgoz) but the speakers in mine are some Vietnamese low budget drivers, maybe the guy from ebay took out he EV-Speakers and used them for other projects.

Is there a frequency spektrum analization from the USB some where?
But I think I saw one in the forum.

We don't have that much money so which amps perform well at a good price?
Or which amps would you prefer.

Here a picture: With 1mid cab missing

ANd another:



Edited by Createk - 16 October 2008 at 4:03pm

Just a BSS FDS 360
Frequency Crossover/Limiter

And when I copied the TSE118 .. which driver should I put in... I opened it once because my cat ripped off the dust cap from one and I remeber that there is no name on the TSE118 drivers... I think because of copying issues

MAybe I sell the Eliminator-System on ebay :)


Edited by Createk - 16 October 2008 at 4:08pm

We want to buy an Equalizer... i don't remember the name but thats what we wanted to do anyways.

Nothing else in the rack

And all the Turbos are fine.

A delay unit ! I always read about that but never thought of it .... thanks for the idea :) !


Edited by Createk - 16 October 2008 at 4:20pm

I actually dont know which Card is in there because we bought the Turbosounds+QSCs+Crossover from a band.

But the cross over points sound right enough for my ears.
I were looking for a Switch or something to change frequencies but there is no such switch.
Only +/- 6 db knob and polarity, mute switches.

Also on the back side there are the limiter switches.
Thats all i can tell right now.

I know thats not the professional way... but I'm working (for) on it, as our budget is now quite small maybe in 3-5 months we will be able to buy a new Crossover, Equalizer,Delay unit  and so on.

At the moment i have 400 € per month but in april i start working an then it will be 3 times more then i have the possibility to buy some stuff and my friends are just finishing school this or next year or don't get paied enough :).

I thought about buying a new Crossover / Equalizer / Limiter MAybe an all in 1 solution.
And a frequency crossover where i can change every channels frequency range and level would be great to have.

A friend of mine told me about a Behringer Crossover/Limiter/Equalizer all in one device.

Is it right that for my crossover i would need a new "crossover card" with diffrent Crossover points. OR more.... actually its a 2way- stero / 3-4 way -mono crossover...

How do I know which card is in the crossover? Do I have to open the " small" pannel on top?




Edited by Createk - 16 October 2008 at 5:04pm