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tweeter box 
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 The item in the bottom of the rack is a 4way VALVE preamp made by behringer!
 It has seperate parametric eq's on sub bass, mid bass, mid and treble
The JTS has a few more additional features at 8+fold the price!
 What id like to know is;
a) What is the difference between the features on here and the EXACT/EQUIVILANT same features on a JTS pre amp? If any!!
b) Is the price justified? considering the behringer gives out that warm vavlve sound system bass ( JTS got no valves ) and only cost me £89 from new with recipt and garuntee!
Thanks in advance for all your input/feedback  Edited by tweeter box - 09 November 2007 at 1:39pm |
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Humble Tafari
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 4:12pm |
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I would have to use the behringer to give an throrough comment. Just reading ono paper is never like actually using it.
I have been using Tubbs preamsp since 84 and have never had any issues with any of them. Several of my preamps i have had customised (added switches/variation in cut-off points...etc) and pretty much stand by them. He has sent me a few prototypes over the years and they've worked just fine.
Yours look really impressive i must say, and interested to hear the accoustic difference between valve preamp and transistor pream. But the best objective would be for one to use them both to get most true opinion.
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Jhodas
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 4:56pm |
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Lob both down the stairs and take em both to a gig.
I know which one I'd play with... |
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tweeter box
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:03pm |
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Im guessing this is your normal way of comparing or testing equipment? lol
 Youd be a fool to play with any of them after a drop down the stairs!
Actually youd be a fool to drop them down the stairs in the first place! lol
LOL no offence intended
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tweeter box
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:09pm |
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Thankyou for your opinion/feedback
I dont think the behringer has as good build quality as a JTS but then ive never used a JTS, just wondering if anybody has used both?
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wasup
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:10pm |
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Nice to know what it is wanted to ask you when you posted in the my rig thread!
So you mention the warm sound is it like that? Does it make a big difference to the sound?Like no mistake or is it minimal?
I was looking into buying one but stopped partley due to funds but also they are not really valves in the true scence.This may cause a discution but read it was just modern things transisitors or such like imitating a valve! Hey no worries i would like to know about the sound itself!
Cannot help you compaire to a jts but why would you want to throw it down a any where let alone stairs?
How do you use it ? Like a crossover? One input and 4 outs like highs ,mids and bass? Or is it after a xover?
The signal is already split and then warmed up[valve effect] so inafect three/four inputs three/four outputs...?????????
Me i was thinking of using it for vocals!
Please tell me more ....
big up and more time andy Edited by wasup - 09 November 2007 at 5:12pm |
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russ d
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:15pm |
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the behringer is only a poormans 4 band (not 4 way) parametric eq, a very poor mans, its not a pre-amp, and certainly not similar to a sound system pre-amp... its made more for studio use rather than sound system, it can of course be used for whatever you want, but please at £89 you got to understand its a cheap piece of junk, real names in parametric eq`s or front end recording pre-amps for studio use are the likes of Neve, API, GML, SSL, Manley, Langevin, Universal Audio, Drawmer etc etc, and these things will cost 10 - 20 times the behringer, the reason is they are of much higher build quality, and actually sound good... behringer eq sounds weak and flimsy in comparison... now to compare to a jts pre-amp, the two units do two ultimately different things, the behringer as described is a paramertric eq, the jts pre-amp is a control unit for a sound system, not just an eq, it has all the input/output to feed a sound system, it filters the seperate bass, mids, treble to feed seperate amps, and decks, fx, mics etc can all be connected at the same time...your behringer cant do none of that... you can of course build a system with behringer (and other cheap makes) to do what a pre-amp can do, you`d have a lot of wiring to sort and you`d be carrying 4 or 5 times the ammount of gear to do the job of a sound system pre-amp... btw, the valves on behringer gear, and fairly much most budget gear, do very little, they also all put a small lamp behind to give the valve more of a glow, it helps sell to beginners !... dont be fooled that your getting a real valve sound with that piece of gear... btw2... there was one sound i played on that used a spl valve unit to push thier bass thru, they still used transistor amps to drive their speakers, thier idea was to give the bass that `valve` sound, to me it did`nt work, it made the bass sound flat, uncontrolled and undefined, its just not the same as running proper valve amps. in the end tho` if your happy with your little setup then thats all ok, its a starting point, and as years go by you will learn and understand more. |
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:25pm |
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I see u use a computer! So why would you want a pre amp?
No wires at all when running it through the comp and the sound is really clean and nice! Well it is on mine can do just about everything FOR FREE as the programs dont cost anything near a PRE well my didnt cost anything at ALL?
True a sound card may help and cost but they arnt all that much either certainly less than a PRE...........
Also no worries with mike and cutout switches NONE.....
What if a pre breaks down? Whole system is out .......Your system now will keep going just without the broken bit........
more time
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TONY.A.S.S.
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:34pm |
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Andy, has your computor ever crashed, I always have that fear. Only ever been used to the normal hardware.
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:39pm |
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 none taken. I was referring to durability in a somewhat direct manner. Basically, JTS preamps have a record for reliability. Berry gear just doesn't have the same rep. It's like (almost) everything in the audio world. You get what you play for. I'm not slating Berry btw. It's good budget stuff. |
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 5:44pm |
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heights Mr T !
Well No it hasnt ! Then why would it?
Me i only know what i have [not very much]..But untill now cannot see any cons between a computer and a pre... In theory i could use any comp so if mine broke i could use the one in the office of the hall i was playing at! But you couldnt if it was a pre!Or i could run out from the mixer [also a pre] Ok how would i get my music out of the comp well mine on an external HD of which i carry 2...........
But then had no problems with power or lack of it ,like them talk about on here recently which will kill ur sound or quality ..But i see what your saying!
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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 7:26pm |
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Give thanx for the Insite and heads up bredda Russ,
Makes much sense now.
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