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To be honest, for smaller gigs, ie not 20 bins aside, surely several amps has the advantage that if your loose an amp you still have a show, if your rig only has one sub amp and it dies then distaster, but if you have two or more you can repatch and still have some sub for the night...
 
Assumly having taken 16 unloaded tsw721s to a gig once for a promoter that HAD to have 45KW (the 125amp single phase may have tipped a more informed individual off we were cheating) with undriven cabs stacked inamongst driven one the "passive" horns still moved alot of air!
 
So perhaps 8K amps aren't the way until you have the need for lots of them....
 
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

To be honest, for smaller gigs, ie not 20 bins aside, surely several amps has the advantage that if your loose an amp you still have a show, if your rig only has one sub amp and it dies then distaster, but if you have two or more you can repatch and still have some sub for the night...
 
Assumly having taken 16 unloaded tsw721s to a gig once for a promoter that HAD to have 45KW (the 125amp single phase may have tipped a more informed individual off we were cheating) with undriven cabs stacked inamongst driven one the "passive" horns still moved alot of air!
 
So perhaps 8K amps aren't the way until you have the need for lots of them....
 


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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

The PL 9.0 was the Jedi Daddy of all amps... and indeed can be turned down to a PL 6.0 even if the mains lead looked like a hose pipe and wouldn't fit into a powercon...
 
The Vz5 and 9001 are indeed great lo-end amps but some kind of chassis, wheels, gearbox and maybe an enigine to move them would be nice...
 
 
hi thanks for the advice shagnasty much appreciated..So in your opinion what would be a better option out of the 2 choices i have mentioned ? I already have x1 matrix xp3000h which has a proven track record for many years hand build in the uk and thinking of getting a further x2....A total weight of 66kg for x3 in rack.....or maybe a single amp like the jts ua6 which is fairly heavy on its own not sure of exact weight. what would you suggest ..you seem to have tested many amps from what i have read in this forum..which set up will deliver what i need ,,cooler amp operation,,reliable performance in 13 hour session?  again your opinions and advice would be much appreciated regards bill Wink
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

To be honest, for smaller gigs, ie not 20 bins aside, surely several amps has the advantage that if your loose an amp you still have a show, if your rig only has one sub amp and it dies then distaster, but if you have two or more you can repatch and still have some sub for the night...
 
Assumly having taken 16 unloaded tsw721s to a gig once for a promoter that HAD to have 45KW (the 125amp single phase may have tipped a more informed individual off we were cheating) with undriven cabs stacked inamongst driven one the "passive" horns still moved alot of air!
 
So perhaps 8K amps aren't the way until you have the need for lots of them....
 
yes very much agree with having several  amps this will give you back up if one breaks down..these are the kinda answers i,m seeking to build a versitile sound system as possible giving me minium techical problems as possible..i will indeed stick to plan A which was to link x3 xp3000h ..many thanks guys for sharing your knowledge and advice regards billWink
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

To be honest, for smaller gigs, ie not 20 bins aside, surely several amps has the advantage that if your loose an amp you still have a show, if your rig only has one sub amp and it dies then distaster, but if you have two or more you can repatch and still have some sub for the night...
 
Assumly having taken 16 unloaded tsw721s to a gig once for a promoter that HAD to have 45KW (the 125amp single phase may have tipped a more informed individual off we were cheating) with undriven cabs stacked inamongst driven one the "passive" horns still moved alot of air!
 
So perhaps 8K amps aren't the way until you have the need for lots of them....
 
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a void infinate 8 like ive got are absolutely insane.tried it first out on 2 fane loaded scoops,made it sound like 8.and had 2 reknowned reggae rig sound men ask me if they could borrow it to run there scoops to see if they want to get one.id say thts impressive.
then last week we used it on4 ik folded horns,(800rms jbl's).....jesus titty f**king christ.gave it a right spanking at the last 10 mins of the night and tripped the mains(only had 13 amp plug on) got a little warm when we did that.
got the 2 ohm test next
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there also ridiculously cheap for what there capable of,got mine for a grand second hand.new at 1300 i believe for the mrk 2's
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Lev how does the infinate 8 mrk1 sound then? have you given it a proper testing yet?

I really want to witness first hand an infinate 8 mk 2 powering 4 x v18-1000/v18-1200/ PD1850
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ive heard the mark 1 on sub on a jungle/reggae rig...stupidly impressive.
 
heard it ona techno rig and various other music styles played out of our system and the bass pulsates like a motherf**ker..its nuts.
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