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I was hoping these would be a nice cabinet to use over the 186, but not for me.

186 doesn't go as low, but there's no way I could move four of those ported horns by myself every gig.
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Originally posted by Deadbeat Deadbeat wrote:

No need to be so afrontive about it - just wondering exactly where this great stuff comes from, that's all.


Language barrier I think mate. Wink
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Originally posted by Sibulus Sibulus wrote:

Originally posted by Deadbeat Deadbeat wrote:

No need to be so afrontive about it - just wondering exactly where this great stuff comes from, that's all.


Language barrier I think mate. Wink
 
exactly , i just try to answer with my bad english sorry !!
 
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Nah it's fine - tell this mister Startec to keep up the good work.
Away on extended leave.
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actually this is a very close contender to martin's WLX as far as this thread is concerned:

http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18252

and it's size is 90% - 95% near to this:

http://www.martin-audio.com/tourandprof/wlx.html



Edited by heinrich - 23 October 2008 at 2:40am
.....power is nothing without control....
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looks great!
 
My only query is, the rear of the driver is facing straight towards the port exit
 
didn't read through it all, but has anyone bulit this?
 
if you're going to build this, I would suggest maybe putting a piece of wood in marked red?
 

[URL=http://g.imageshack.us/img508
 
 
 
 


Edited by mykey - 24 October 2008 at 12:20pm
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Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

looks great!
 
My only query is, the rear of the driver is facing straight towards the port exit
 
didn't read through it all, but has anyone bulit this?
 
if you're going to build this, I would suggest maybe putting a piece of wood in marked red?
 
This has a similar design, or maybe a revision on this. the thread below, maybe you could give us some idea as to the effect of the additional piece of wood. maybe slower down the velocity of the moving air?

http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20718

 
 
 
 
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Yes, it would be nice if the air saw the rest of the chamber before it leftLOL, I've always used the idea that if the cone can't directly see the exit of the port in a design like this, the better it is
 
not to bad if its port tubes, say directly behind a driver, but not a labrynth port like this
 
I put a reflective panel in the XXL around the port area for this reason  


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Originally posted by _djk_ _djk_ wrote:

Looks very well thought out, and I like the even cone loading.
it's the same loading as the Xtro, contour stylee 
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Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

Yes, it would be nice if the air ssaw the rest of the chmaber before it left, I've always used the idea that if the cone can't directly see the exit of the port in a design like this, the better it is
 
not to bad if its port tubes, say directly behind a driver, but not a labrynth port like this
 
 
Got the pointThumbs Up.... a reason why Martin WLX uses  two rounded ports...
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so then, how low would say four of these get?

it looks realy similar to the design amano posted recently too,

Im interested as these seem to be a possible candidate for a relatively cheap sub to go under some slightly unusual hd15's [ie 300w neo drivers, slightly less overall output, a fair bit lighter cheaper and more efficient]

could a design like this do say 30<70hz at moderate power levels?
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Originally posted by Markk James Markk James wrote:

so then, how low would say four of these get?

it looks realy similar to the design amano posted recently too,

Im interested as these seem to be a possible candidate for a relatively cheap sub to go under some slightly unusual hd15's [ie 300w neo drivers, slightly less overall output, a fair bit lighter cheaper and more efficient]

could a design like this do say 30<70hz at moderate power levels?

 
surely this will play lower in a group of 4 per side... so excited to build the first two pair the following week...
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