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Hugo Biermann 
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 Topic: How Serious are ya about yer HI-FI Cabs?Posted: 24 September 2005 at 5:53am |
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How do ya lot go on 'bout ya Hi-Fi speaker Cabinets?
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Timber_MG
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Posted: 24 September 2005 at 7:02am |
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The same way as about the PA stuff here ;-) A good PA cab will sound
useable in the home in my opinion. My tannoy 15" Monitors are currently
being re-built by the carpenter and some 12"/1" Tops serve rather well
in their place, except that they are 600 km away in the hands of my 16
yo brother ;-) who would put the fully active mini-PA to good use on
the neighbours if it weren't for two other sibblings studying for
accounting exams keeping him in check.
Just don't come to me with a toy hi-fi speaker for who knows how much in anything but the smallest of rooms. If the 1" dome crossed too low doesn't like some dynamics or if the little mid-basses sound like they'd rather be crossed above 300Hz when asked to reproduce a live-recorded bassdrum or Orchestra. I don't care whether you just dropped R50.000 on your HT but a nearfield monitor is just that: meant for near-field listening. </ramlbings> PS: I am the type who will audition a HT subwoofer with the Telarc Recording of the 1812 with significant content (-7dB fs down to 7Hz iirc) on the bits with the live recorded cannonfire. See the salespeople jump as far as the driver's throw ;-) |
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Hugo Biermann
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 6:27am |
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I’m sitting with a pair of old SEAS speakers. ‘Stole’ them from the ex…
I had to build new boxes for them. Searched the net for don’t know how long to find specs on them. The drivers are something like 30 years old. Built two 30L sealed boxes for them. Its two 10 inch woofers (25 TV-EW) with BIG surrounds. Looks like ‘Big Roll Surround’ car subs. The tweeters are 1.5 inch voice coil textile domes (Dome 87 H). I used the crossovers that came with them. Modified the L-pad to bring the tweeters down about 1 dB though. They sound f**kin good. They sound better than some Kef and |
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Timber_MG
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 6:40am |
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Sorry 'bout the OT rambling (look at teh time of post ;-), SEAS do
produce some good components and there is often times nowt wrong with
some older components, as long as the crossover for them is well
thought through. Just be aware, that speakers you built yourself will
always sound a little better to yourself than to an objective party,
but DIY is 60% of the joy in building hi-fi speakers. My next hi-fi
project is a 4x 6.5" (the cheap woven yellow cone Scotronics jobbies
and the riddiculously linear monacor MSH-116 4" mid and DT-28 tweeter,
perhaps with a waveguide, have to see when I get back home)
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Tom Umney
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 8:37am |
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ATC make a very nice sounding dome midrange.But I don't bother with HIFI speakers and just use my RCF ART500's in my bedroom to save costs and blown hifi speakers like i did a hell of a lot in the past.
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Timber_MG
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 10:06am |
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ATC Dome is pure pr0n for a wide/omni dispersion type design (very well
damped room) but the constant directivity waveguides and large cones
allow for is much more beneficial in more live(ly) environments. I just
find myself with lots of drivers starting at me from a shelf and I feel
obliged to do something with them.
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Dave Slater
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 5:58pm |
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just got hold of a pair of 10" tannoy dual concentrics circa '80 they're still in the original boxes and in really good nick for saying they're 25yrs old i actually bought them to put in some new and more asthetically pleasing cabs for the living room but when i got them back home the only available amp was in my studio first listening i was like f**k this there's no way they're going downstairs! awesome sound beats the sh*t out of my spirit absolute zeros (which now reside in the living room) the difference point source makes in the nearfield situation is unbelievable i'm hearing things i didn't know existed on tracks i've been listening to for years
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Hugo Biermann
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Posted: 25 September 2005 at 7:07pm |
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Oh, jea! the SEAS's also went to the studio at the office. Had to fight to get them back. They shat all over the Absolute Zeros... Our engineer couldnt believe that the 'old crappy' speakers could reproduce the things they do. Sorry I ment they extend all the way into the low 30's. They rattle windows with a decent dvd. Sometimes i think my old kenwood subwoofer is still connected... |
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Timber_MG
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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 1:27am |
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You'd struggle to get my Tannoy 15" Dual concentrics out of my dead cold hands.
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biotec
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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 8:50am |
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I've got 2 mackie active sa1521's, one goes in the living room for the downstairs decks, and one goes in my bedroom cos the girlfriend loves em, i can only be grateful that pa speakers come painted in wipe-clean polyeurethane.
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Tony Wilkes
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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 1:21pm |
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I use a pair of self design jobbies using Volt 8" bass units and
Scan-Speak Revelator tweeters. Using Supersound Poly caps and Volt Air
cored inductors.
They don't sound Hi-Fi at all they just sort of play music in a very musical way. Tony p.s. See image left Edited by wilkee |
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Posted: 26 September 2005 at 4:38pm |
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ive got nuff love for hi fi excelence just like pa got the whole spectrum of hi speakers in all rooms tannoy little red [bedroom] tannoy westministers [studio] yamaha ns 10 [studio] jbl control 1s [bathroom] kef 104/2 [living room] mixup of control systemdeck glass platter linn itok arm turntable cyrus pre/and power quad 303 mono block circa 1978 demo model 80w valve amp from old blue spot gram [dogs nuts of warm amps just a minor amount of my gear slanted nakamichi dragon tape deck
aka im an audio nut |
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