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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nineleaves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2009 at 10:23pm
well, your incoming and outgoing bandwidth is 24bit (144db), most signal sources are 16bit (96db), the intermediary headroom in the dsp would appear to be the full 32 bit (a very large number) ..so, when the incoming signal is correctly scaled for 1:1 it shouldnt loose any resolution, nor waste any headroom & have some leeway in the middle :)

im short of time this evening and weekend, tho ill do a gain structure test and post on it later.. im curious too :)

in the meantime, id like to reccomend getting distracted by the coen bros film, raising arizona ..absolute classic, with nicolas cage before he was 'someone' ;) 
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I bought one when it was first released.

Awesome piece of kit.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mk2_ginger_biscuit69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2009 at 12:50pm
Clapmost interesting and usefull thread ive seen on here in a LONG time. Top marks too you!!
 
and yes, the build is surprising for 250quid! it amazes me how companys can build things like this for so damn little. theres so much going on and so many components, mass production is a beast not to be reckoned with.
 
thankyou for the origional postSmile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nineleaves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2009 at 12:55pm
:)
smt automated assembly that litterally allows manifacturers to print products has helped with the scales of economy & made things somewhat more compact.
however behringer really shouldnt be selling this so cheaply; kind of their philosphy tho to stack them high & sell lots of them at a slim profit. ..so ill let them get on with it & be glad of the matter ;)
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Thing is that if they are good enough then hire firms will start to get them anyway, so DJ's will have no choice but to become familiar with them.  And then you're part of the way to an 'industry standard' item.......
 
I can see them being listed on riders now - Berry DDM mixer NOTHING ELSE WILL DO!
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Originally posted by norty303 norty303 wrote:

Thing is that if they are good enough then hire firms will start to get them anyway, so DJ's will have no choice but to become familiar with them.  And then you're part of the way to an 'industry standard' item.......
 
I can see them being listed on riders now - Berry DDM mixer NOTHING ELSE WILL DO!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nineleaves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2009 at 9:20pm
whilst it might be quite humorous to prose the idea of anything behringer becoming a mandatory must have which the industry depends on; they do manage to make the occasional exceptional product which exceeds their usual middle of the road standards.
back in the 90's their 19" compressor racks were everywhere, hire companys up and down the land had droves of them as i can only assume they were affordable & did the job to a high standard ;)
now, their dcx2496 digital crossovers seem to be becoming an accepted standard where someone doesnt feel the need to be visably seen with a very pricey bss or the likes in the rack; as yet again, they are affordable &  do the job really well ;)
I suspect the ddm 4000 could catch on somewhat too, however i figure the prejudices against its branding in a more visable post will weigh heavily against it... even when it does deliver. Whats that quote from shakesphere again about 'a rose by any other name ? ;)

as for the reliability issue, it was initially down to afew bad connector choices in new product & letting some bad smps supply designs out the door too early on.. causing the mucho exciting failiures on their part.
they have however resolved this now and they seem super reliable ;)
however yes at this price, you can sling a spare one in the backup box & know that come failiure or dj with a pint.. youll not be too heavily out of pocket to keep things running :)


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Thanks for that I've just bought 4 DJM800's could have used the same money to buy another D12 and 4 berrys. I bet it has 4 x phono in's as well unlike the DJM800
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Edited by nineleaves - 25 January 2009 at 4:22pm
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I love being able to map the buttons to whatever I want in VirtualDJ/Traktor/Etc.  It doubles as a midi controller.
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Quote whilst it might be quite humorous to prose the idea of anything behringer becoming a mandatory must have which the industry depends on; they do manage to make the occasional exceptional product which exceeds their usual middle of the road standards.
back in the 90's their 19" compressor racks were everywhere, hire companys up and down the land had droves of them as i can only assume they were affordable & did the job to a high standard ;)
 
Please don't take my comments as a slating of it.  I'm a Berry fan, being a DCX user and owning a number of Composers and EQ's by them, all of which I'm happy with.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveAATW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2009 at 6:41pm
What's the build quality like? The main problem with the DJM-600 clone wasn't really the sound quality more that it fell to bits after 10 seconds of being used
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