Maybe build the Punisher 2’s???

using 4 ohm drivers, you could give a pair of cabs 1200 W each for £250
with a ta-2400. powered, you'd have change from £600 for all materials
with not a bridged amp in sight.

but then you'd have 4 ohm cabs, which later on might annoy. dunno.
pretty hypothetical at present.

james.

the angst with bridging,is probably based on two things

1)manufacturers inflated claims that dont work for low impedence dip drivers under 8hrs of stress at a real gig

2)You must remember that when bridge - each amplifer effectively sees half of the load resistance.Odd concept but its true. So bridging is effective for the higher loads while paralleling for the low loads. But theres always a limit.Im suprised we do as well as we do.

Mike

i know these things about bridging (especially about each channel seeing
half the load resistance, self explanatory really) and it lurks at the back of
my mind as something for driving big 8 ohm loads with. it is a heavy but
innexpensive (ish) way of powering adult cabs, consider that 4 x ta-1400
or even 4 x ep-2500 would power a few cabs in anger and still come in at
significantly less than any of the big boys out there. 8 ohm loads all
round of course.

regarding series/ paralell wiring, i came up with areally trick way of doing
it with four pole speakons but you need to make up some special leads to
do it. with 2 sockets per cab you can have any combination of series and
parallel, but i gave up in the end as it just seemed unneccesary. two 4
ohm loads in series and you are back to 8 ohms but with the biggest
power rating ever, this really wouldn't help.

hey ho. james.

ah, just the person! i have just been corresponding with loophole (is that
the right verb for the act of a correspondance? doesn't look right...) about
punishers who said you were one of the people to talk to about real world
experiences.

you elected getting two big amps to drive all four of yours then, what
have you gone for in the end? i'd really like to know what you've got away
with and what you thought got the sweetest balance, i'm sure they must
bark a teensy bit (or should i say itsy bit) with 1500W.

i'd love to know if you've tried doing owt with one a side also, the 4 ohm
version makes a bit more sense then. whilst i kind of shudder at the
thought of 2 ohm loads i feel i've wasted carrying stuff if i'm not running
at 4. at low frequencies will a 4 ohm driver in fact drop down in
impedance to around 2 or have i got confusled again. the high impedance
trade off i presume implies that an amp can control a signal into a higher
resistive load better than into a lower one.

james.

ToXiC wrote: LOL <blah>  crap <blah>. <blah>!!!

I knew it, I just knew it.

As soon as I mention old skool (or is it olde world) technology, some young buck, still in short trousers, comes latching onto the wrong end of the stick like a rabid yorkie in a field of lamposts.

Note: I asked about Speakons, as I know that 1/4" are not suitable for high power speaker connections, however I also know that the only other common alternative, the Cannon or XLR is not capable of having a switched socket (at least in any configuration I have known). Hence me asking about Speakons.

<insert rant about the good old days here>

NB the switching capability of the 1/4" jack allows for many useful functions. That's why the sound stops coming through your speakers, when you plug headphones into a receiver. Thats how my active bass know to turn the preamp on when I insert the jack. Thats how a guitar effects pedal knows to turn on or off to save the battery. Thats also how some of my other speaker cabs know whether they are running in mono or stereo, parallel or series, or one speaker or two.

Seems like Neutrik missed a bit when they designed the Speakon, special cables pfft!
(who trusts anyone except themselves to know how and where to use a special cable?)

up until 5 years ago or even less,many big name companies still didn't use anything but 1/4 plugs. They can handle quite a bit of pwer(theres still plenty of metal in QUALITY plugs-sometimes more than speakons)

As far as sound quality goes-no one can pick the difference. They are only popular now because of 2-4-8 pole models,can't short them,good contact. They can handle 30a current too but a 1/4 plug can handle almost as much unless you actually use a cheap 50c headphone model.

Before speakons came out,that's what was used and there was definately plenty of power running thru them

You know what really sounds crap? Clipping amps and overdriven bass drivers in cheap full-range cabs...