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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 11:23am
Yeah its not easy business to be in. But the cost of everything has gone up it seems most business's are feeling the strain. I'll be getting utimate to build me some mid highs soon though. Luckily dont have to worry about getting cabs built for my 2150s yet as ive got 18" minis also. When i cross that bridge it wont be pretty
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 12:30pm
that's one thing about the ASS RX18 3.5 SHEETS of ply per cab :) on a side note I'm so glad i just got back my original cabs from 2010 Steve b scoops fully rebated and in propa birch ply its my 5th time owning Steve b but its my first set back again for the record i paid 900 for 4 in 2010 not painted or grilled but with wheels :) i sold them in 2011 and they sat in a lock up until Dec last year not even loaded up , i had been pestering the guy for years and he finally said "may as well" i was beyond happy , i took these cabs all over the uk so have memories :) 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 1:42pm
Love that feeling of buying bk old cabs. Tried it with my minis but no1 would let them go AngryLOL i was lucky to find someody selling 8 but i was looking for a good year. If i hadnt found them i would have bought new. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 1:45pm
Bk on topic, lev get them 21 scoops built, il load my 2150s and play them in 1 of the london soundchek events 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

Bk on topic, lev get them 21 scoops built, il load my 2150s and play them in 1 of the london soundchek events 


No SteveB around, to build moderately priced cabs.

May cost me over £3200, to get 4x cabs built, and then no guarantee of sales as a result.

Tough decision.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 3:25pm
what happend to steve b ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 3:34pm
Was told quite a while bk he stopped building. Lev what about having them built in a cheaper ply? Had 1 of my shutter ply stevebs a/b with a top builders birch ply 50/52 scoop which was also braced alot more throughout the cab and mouth and the steveb still done the job let alone if it was braced the same as the bitch ply cab. Id buy non birch cabs still. Or maybe just use birch for the driver baffle as 2150 weighs a ton 







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 8:32pm
Would it be amiss of me to suggest that 24mm ply would problably be preferable? Tony Rossell (TonyASS) used 24mm in his 21 inch scoops and with the amount of low frequency energy one of these beasts would be capable of lots of additional  bracing would seem to be the order of the day. So, several hundred pounds in weight, several hundred pounds in price and the money for a back brace and surgical support - seems about right for Disco Dave!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2022 at 10:03pm
CNC'd, well braced, & professionally assembled cab, will be fine in 18mm birch ply.

No need for 24mm at all, that is just unecessary over kill.

Cabs designed and built, with no compromise, fitted with top class optimal drivers, and powered with top class amplifiers, with plenty of headroom, is proven route to success.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 September 2022 at 6:42am
Mainly a thick baffle can be usefull, but by glueing 2x18 together you are even much stiffer than 24mm plate. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 September 2022 at 7:35pm
Friend in Sheffield has 24mm scoops and they are RIDICULOUSLY heavy 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2022 at 8:55am
Originally posted by Sinai Sound Sinai Sound wrote:

Friend in Sheffield has 24mm scoops and they are RIDICULOUSLY heavy 


People who have moved my 18" Scoops around have told me, my Scoops unloaded, were heavier than many Scoops loaded !!

That tells me, many builders in the past, skimped on sufficient bracing, to save material cost and increase profit, at the cost of performance/build quality.

Thereby resulting in many thinking 24mm is mandatory, for heavy drivers, whereas just 24mm driver baffle, with optimal doubled up bracing where needed, is more than enough.




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