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Originally posted by cerwin4life cerwin4life wrote:

hm if an Fs of 46 not will sound great in any box, then why the hell did Cerwin Vega build the woofer with that Fs


Don't know, but in the big scheme of things, Cerwin Vega 18" drivers compared to many others, are a bit of a joke.

I'm not a fan of any manufacturer.

Best driver for the cab, for the job, at best price, is far less emotional way of thinking. Embarrassed
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First of all you need to understand that we are helping you. You just dont listen.
Cerwin Vega is a DJ grade gear and we do not rank it very high. I dont rank it at all to be honest.
They make noise but that is it.
Second, you need to learn how horn loaded subs works. Then you will realize that two in a group will not give you the low extension you want. 
The Cyclop box is designed to go down to 40Hz with the proper driver. Which your Cerwin Vega is not.
Plus it is a tapped horn, which means it will not gain much in low extension by multiplying the boxes.

Now go sell your drivers and get your self a real ones.
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Originally posted by cerwin4life cerwin4life wrote:

hm if an Fs of 46 not will sound great in any box, then why the hell did Cerwin Vega build the woofer with that Fs ??????? Or maybe they wanted it to sound crap so people buy other brands instead.......!

Because the driver was designed in the late 70s when no one needed subbass below 45 Hz ! 

Originally posted by cerwin4life cerwin4life wrote:

 as told im going to use them for home use,and 4 boxes will be too much and take too much space. 

Do yourself a favor and build a nice and simple, adequately tuned reflex box, as the knowledgeable folk here have suggested - they ARE trying to help you, but you're not listening! 

A folded horn is complicated and very hard to build properly. A double reflex box should also be smaller than two scoops or FLHs, and more likely to provide low extension and adequate sound pressure for a home theatre system with moderate amplifier power. You don't need the benefits of horn loading. 
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Originally posted by bob4 bob4 wrote:


A folded horn is complicated and very hard to build properly. A double reflex box should also be smaller than two scoops or FLHs, and more likely to provide low extension and adequate sound pressure for a home theatre system with moderate amplifier power. You don't need the benefits of horn loading.


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Imagine for home movie setup, correctly tuned & built 2x12/2x15/2x18 reflex sub, hidden away out of sight, powered by quality Class AB amp, like MC2 1250..

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Well maybe he is a nut job like i am. I have 2xBA121SC backloaded horns, 4xBA118 and 2xBA12 as a Call of Duty game setup here :-). Crazy!
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alright im building my self some 186horn. but no one seems interessted too help we with the cut sheet. but ok im an idiot who canr read what having sex angels i should cut the board in.

So fine thanks for the help, u really make me feel good about myself (no one wants too be classifed as idiots who dont listen).
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Ban..
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Ma ja, toti zvočnik mu bo v scoopu razpadel.
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Okay so im banned now also?? okay
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