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Deadbeat
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 8:48am |
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Model it using offset driver if you're doing it this way. Try to keep compression low as mykey has said when doing this sort of thing. Otherwise you may be victim to flapping cone disease.
I have the latest version of hornresp and have none of the problems you have - will have a go later - newer versions of hornresp have corrected bass response as you may find. It's not wrong, just more accurate - remember what 0.5 is? And why are you still calculating in 0.5pi? |
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Amano
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 8:50am |
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http://amanosempai.narod.ru/web/Doc5.htm
What do you think about that? ![]() 2 Deadbeat, I calculated only for comparison.. I understand, that 2xPI is normal conditions to play, but i'm trying to test a configuration with different ANG to get optimal parameters. ![]() Edited by Amano - 07 October 2008 at 8:59am |
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MarjanM
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 1:23pm |
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That is exactly the horn i am going to build
![]() Mine is with a 18" driver. |
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djstefanos
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 2:15pm |
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its like a stretched out 186 horn
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tommysb
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 6:24pm |
SO mykey, are you saying that a throat like this will put too much stress on the driver? |
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 6:51pm |
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I would guess with this plan one side of the driver is always gonna tear as the driver isn't loaded evenly
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 7:22pm |
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Amano - Nice design mate. Always good to see people trying different things
![]() My ideas - If you intend to use it in a stack of four then model in 0.5 pi if on its own then 2 pi. I would say that a single version would be more manageable and more importantly, it will fit through doors! I would tend to agree with other people that the throat is too small. The start of the horn is the throat area which is the SMALLEST point after the throat chamber. I.e. the right hand edge of mykey's diagram above (if its a letterbox design). Anyways, nice work, get a prototype built! Matt |
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Deadbeat
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 7:32pm |
Where is your reasoning for this? |
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:38pm |
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Quote from mr McBean:
Imagine a loudspeaker positioned in a corner, but not touching the floor or either of the two walls. Now assume that the floor and the walls are three mirrors. Looking into the mirrors you will see seven images of the actual loudspeaker. One loudspeaker has been turned into eight, hence the use of the term "eighth-space" or Pi/2 steradians to describe a corner location. Acoustically, provided that the dimensions of the radiator and the distance from the walls are small compared to the wavelength, then one speaker radiating into eighth-space is the same as eight speakers radiating into free space. Once again, this can be confirmed using Hornresp. Hope this helps. Kind regards, David http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11032&PN=12 |
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Deadbeat
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Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:41pm |
Exactly what i've been saying - it seems that there is mass confusion regarding the difference between this and a stack of 4 bins. |
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Posted: 08 October 2008 at 6:45pm |
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great development, comrade. but i'm afraid it's too big bitch to carry. i'm selling out my wsx's crap to build a compact rig as my backbone demands! |
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Posted: 08 October 2008 at 8:10pm |
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what are you going to replace them with Everdark?? |
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