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Model it using offset driver if you're doing it this way. Try to keep compression low as mykey has said when doing this sort of thing. Otherwise you may be victim to flapping cone disease.

I have the latest version of hornresp and have none of the problems you have - will have a go later - newer versions of hornresp have corrected bass response as you may find. It's not wrong, just more accurate - remember what 0.5 is?

And why are you still calculating in 0.5pi?
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http://amanosempai.narod.ru/web/Doc5.htm

What do you think about that? Wink

2 Deadbeat, I calculated only for comparison..
I understand, that 2xPI is normal conditions to play, but i'm trying to test a configuration with different ANG to get optimal parameters. Smile


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That is exactly the horn i am going to build Smile
Mine is with a 18" driver.
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its like a stretched out 186 horn

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Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

the area in red is to small, this needs to be deeper, the blue marking should be a solid piece across the width of the cabinet
 


SO mykey, are you saying that a throat like this will put too much stress on the driver?


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I would guess with this plan one side of the driver is always gonna tear as the driver isn't loaded evenly
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Amano - Nice design mate.  Always good to see people trying different things Smile
My ideas - If you intend to use it in a stack of four then model in 0.5 pi if on its own then 2 pi.
I would say that a single version would be more manageable and more importantly, it will fit through doors!

I would tend to agree with other people that the throat is too small.  The start of the horn is the throat area which is the SMALLEST point after the throat chamber.  I.e. the right hand edge of mykey's diagram above (if its a letterbox design).

Anyways, nice work, get a prototype built!

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Originally posted by mstep77 mstep77 wrote:

Amano - Nice design mate.  Always good to see people trying different things Smile
My ideas - If you intend to use it in a stack of four then model in 0.5 pi if on its own then 2 pi.
I would say that a single version would be more manageable and more importantly, it will fit through doors!

I would tend to agree with other people that the throat is too small.  The start of the horn is the throat area which is the SMALLEST point after the throat chamber.  I.e. the right hand edge of mykey's diagram above (if its a letterbox design).

Anyways, nice work, get a prototype built!

Matt


Where is your reasoning for this?
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Quote from mr McBean:

Imagine a loudspeaker positioned in a corner, but not touching the floor or either of the two walls. Now assume that the floor and the walls are three mirrors. Looking into the mirrors you will see seven images of the actual loudspeaker. One loudspeaker has been turned into eight, hence the use of the term "eighth-space" or Pi/2 steradians to describe a corner location. Acoustically, provided that the dimensions of the radiator and the distance from the walls are small compared to the wavelength, then one speaker radiating into eighth-space is the same as eight speakers radiating into free space. Once again, this can be confirmed using Hornresp.

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Originally posted by doober doober wrote:

Quote from mr McBean:

Imagine a loudspeaker positioned in a corner, but not touching the floor or either of the two walls. Now assume that the floor and the walls are three mirrors. Looking into the mirrors you will see seven images of the actual loudspeaker. One loudspeaker has been turned into eight, hence the use of the term "eighth-space" or Pi/2 steradians to describe a corner location. Acoustically, provided that the dimensions of the radiator and the distance from the walls are small compared to the wavelength, then one speaker radiating into eighth-space is the same as eight speakers radiating into free space. Once again, this can be confirmed using Hornresp.

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Exactly what i've been saying - it seems that there is mass confusion regarding the difference between this and a stack of 4 bins.
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great development, comrade.

but i'm afraid it's too big bitch to carry. 

i'm selling out my wsx's crap to build a compact rig as my backbone demands!

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what are you going to replace them with Everdark??
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