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Topic: Round 18" Grilles
Posted By: Meat
Subject: Round 18" Grilles
Date Posted: 29 January 2015 at 5:29pm
I'm thinking of putting round grilles on my 18" subs and I'm just wondering if I have to make any special consideration in which ones to get as they're very high excursion drivers. Do they even do extra deep ones?

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Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 29 January 2015 at 5:39pm
  Had this trouble when I put some waffle grills over some Fane XBs, I used a normal grill but spaced it out with a front gasket from a dead speaker.


Posted By: lost eden
Date Posted: 04 February 2015 at 2:07pm
Electrikal had this issue with PD1851(?) in hog scoops. One gig I was at they resorted to running them with no grilles (was fun to be able to see the cones moving though!).


Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 04 February 2015 at 2:33pm
Yeah, I remember that and that's why I'm asking actually. Did they find some deeper ones?


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Don't test the champignon sound


Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 04 February 2015 at 7:11pm
I believe on their new subs they have a wooden clamp for the grill made up that holds the grill and puts a little space between the driver and grill.

I think they also had markie make up round grills for their older hogs as well with a bigger bump in them so the cones didn't touch the grill

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Posted By: markie
Date Posted: 04 February 2015 at 9:34pm
I don't make round grills. If the baffle is recessed deeply enough I can make a box pan grill to the full depth of the recess. Box pan is where all 4 edges of grill are folded to stand the grill off the baffle.


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Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 04 February 2015 at 11:36pm
I coulda sworn electrikal told me that you had made the new grills for their hogs!

Obviously wrong but I was so sure haha

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Posted By: markie
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 12:55am
Round grills are pressed on a huge machine and there's no room for one in my shed.


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Posted By: lost eden
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 2:12pm
Electrikal posted this to facebook not long ago. Whoever is in charge of their facebook account needs to start posting things here on speakerplans more ;)



Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 2:22pm
So... ...normal grills but special clamps for the long excursion win. This is exactly the sort of info I wanted. Thanks very much.


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Don't test the champignon sound


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 2:33pm
It looks like they had an off the shelf grille sandwiched between two rings of wood (painted black) to get it further away from the cone, before it is clamped on.


Posted By: markie
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 4:35pm
Here's what I don't understand. Round grills are about a fiver each for the cheap ones (that are almost made on tinfoil) or £9.00 for one made of 1.1mm steel. Then theres £3 odd for a set of standard clamps, so that's £8-12 per cabinet. Then you have to mess around with wooden rings to allow for the excursion.

The above cabs have batten already fitted for  a square grill to fully cover the driver. I charge £16.50 max for such a grill which is 1.5mm thick and looks (hopefully) far more professional. For an extra fiver you can even  have it powder coated.

Doesn't seem to make sense to be but then I am biased.


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If it's got wheels or tits it's gonna cost a fortune


Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 4:37pm
On the grill subject, sorry for my crude drawing, but any make these shape grill just a few bends ,

with resorting to big companys and silly money...as markie said box pan grill , but with some bends in it like the pic




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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 5:05pm
Originally posted by markie markie wrote:

Here's what I don't understand. Round grills are about a fiver each for the cheap ones (that are almost made on tinfoil) or £9.00 for one made of 1.1mm steel. Then theres £3 odd for a set of standard clamps, so that's £8-12 per cabinet. Then you have to mess around with wooden rings to allow for the excursion.

The above cabs have batten already fitted for  a square grill to fully cover the driver. I charge £16.50 max for such a grill which is 1.5mm thick and looks (hopefully) far more professional. For an extra fiver you can even  have it powder coated.

Doesn't seem to make sense to be but then I am biased.


I think for some it's purely the looks of it, show as much wood as possible and that


Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 05 February 2015 at 5:09pm
no ?



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Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 06 February 2015 at 7:40am
Circular grills are good for prototypes. If you know that you might change the design later but still want to defeat inquisitive fingers. I'm also considering a hi-fi style cloth front as that can be made to measure in a similar way to the metal grills but is much cheaper.


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Don't test the champignon sound


Posted By: RC1 Sound System
Date Posted: 10 February 2015 at 7:41pm
I'm sure I've seen speaker grill spacer rings commonly for sale in the car audio world to fix just such a problem.  An off the shelf product you just clamp under the grill to give better clearance from the cone.


Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 10 February 2015 at 8:55pm
yes yes true rc1 , you can router them out yuself easy enough too

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