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Funny you say that. I had been looking at the DBX pa2 or the Behringer Ultradrive as a cheaper option. I couldn't really work out if it would be worth the investment, but suspect with a digital crossover and speaker protection it kind of is.
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The dbmark xca24+ and the berry both have 96k sampling rate. The dbx pa2 has 48k for some reason. Don't buy the pa2.

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Thanks for the heads up. Still procrastinating if I really need one. Power amp first priority.
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Resurrecting this old post as things are progressing with this setup, and would really like some advice on driver replacement for the VS10 subs. I've spent a bit more time remodelling the setup to incorporate the new Turbos. So far I've reconfigured the amplification freeing up the Chevin A500's to run in bridged mode (1 per TXD-115 sub) giving around 650w per sub. This frees up the A1000 to run the 151 tops. I've also invested in a digital amp to run the Tannoy kit (they are such sweet sounding speakers with a lovely hifi'esque soundstage I couldn't take them out of service). I've bought an Audac SMQ350 which has 4 channels and lots of control over the input - output mapping, high and low filtering, individual gain control, etc. These amps kick out 350w into 4ohm into 4 channels or 700w into 2 channels bridged, so thought it would be a versatile amp for various configs. I've not cranked it up yet, so can't comment on how it sounds, I've been rather spoilt with the Chevins... The only missing thing is getting the blown VS10 driver replaced. Any suggestions on a suitable 10" driver, greatly appreciated. I'm getting nowhere with Tannoy support, as the driver is unlike anything I can find from other suppliers. It's a very high extrusion driver, which looks more like a home cinema or car sub driver.  https://photos.app.goo.gl/25ipNcbt7w63NwYs9 - https://photos.app.goo.gl/25ipNcbt7w63NwYs9 The Band Pass cab is around 30ltrs. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. 
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Although I'm not surprised that Tannoy isn't interested in helping with asuch an old product, I am a bit surprised that the the 10" driver from the later VSX10BP isn't suitable. I used to install them fairly often in bars and small clubs as the very low profile is handy to squeeze in between or under things. Obviously a sensible HPF is essential for high output especially with turntables or live equipment, but overall I really like the performance of them from 10" drivers. Finding a good replacement driver shouldn't be impossible even if Tannoy don't want to help, unlike my beloved Celestion Substation 10 which is dual voice coil and I've never managed to find a driver that performs like the original!

Edit: The Tannoy TX1 is not completely useless. Unlike some other basic 2 way crossovers it does actually allow for full range operation from a pair of main speakers while adding gain control for a summed mono sub channel. The only problem I found with it was that it doesn't provide an HPF for the sub channel or the main output when using it as outlined above. That's not a problem at lower volume levels but it sure can lead to damage it higher ones. 


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Thanks Lucas, I'm really struggling to find anything. The Guys at Blue Aran have nothing suitable, and the guy who someone suggested might be able to replace the burnt out coil won't touch them either due to lack of spares. I did find that they were the same driver that Tannoy used in a home cinema sub, but I can only find one driver for sale and that's in Australia and over £300... Starting to think my search is futile, which is a shame as they are really quite effective subs for such small enclosures with great low bass response (better than my 15" turbos). I did find these - https://www.soundimports.eu/en/grs-10sw-4he.html but with no info about them, it's a bit of a long shot.
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This is the one in oz - https://ebay.us/m/b3Anho
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That's a fair stack of cash. Bear in mind that you would really need to replace both drivers in a pair if they are not identical. It might be worth asking on a car audio forum as 10" BP cabs are quite popular in that field these days. I would have a good think before spending money though, as that cabinet size and design probably isn't ideal if you're planning to use them mostly outdoors.
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I wasn't really considering the oz one. Would be great to get the pair back up and running, as they are a useful set of cabs when operational, but one on it's own doesn't really have enough clout. I agree they probably don't have the ideal characteristics for outdoors. To be honest, I'm throwing everything I have at the moment as my rigs going to be running a small marquee/tent at an party in Sept so was hoping to have these back in the mix. Mines the smallest tent (probably 50-60 capacity) out of three so don't need it to be pounding (there's a big reggae soundsystem and a fairly hefty rave rig in other tents). This tents going to be pumping out a bit of soul and funk so don't need to move lots of air. Failing finding anything, I'll sack the Tannoy's off and just use my txd115's. 
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I hadn't thought about car audio. But might be worth exploring, thanks for your input!
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Originally posted by m@d m@d wrote:

I hadn't thought about car audio. But might be worth exploring, thanks for your input!


Don't be dissuaded by the DVC/low impedence of any drivers people might recommend for a BP cabinet. You can easily series wire a pair of 2ohm VCs for a 4ohm total load for example.

EDIT: Also, in the car audio world I would suggest dividing any claimed power handing figures by at least 4...


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Ha! yes, I take all power handling from that world with a pinch of salt! That's very true with the ohm load I'd not thought about them being predominantly 2ohm. 
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