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valve head777
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Lumping all scoops into the same category isn't right. Small chamber scoop, faster tighter bass, large chamber, slower, less definition....
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levyte357-
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Also, correctly matching Scoop throat to driver, fundamentally effects Scoop "throw"... |
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Dub Specialist Sound
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Well its all crucial tbh,
from chamber to throat to horn path to mouth....with scoops
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Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE...
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valve head777
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So maybe the OP should check a small chamber scoop or, dare I say it, a hog for the edm part of what gets played. If somebody auditions a large chamber scoop, it'll put him off scoops forever! Lol
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valve head777
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I do know someone with a couple of hogs who plays a wider range of music than strictly Dub/Reggae and as an all rounder, sounds good but if just for exclusively Dub/Reggae, traditional scoop all day.
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SouthwestCNC
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How well do ms118's sit in the reggae/dub scene these days?
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levyte357-
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Dub scene is quite different from just typical Reggae Scene. There are a small group of 18" drivers, that will regularly take the beating, and for optimum performance, they need cabs optimised for them. For Reggae/Rave sound system, 4x subs, cheapest solution would probably be 18" Superscoopers, loaded with V18-1000, and quality sub amps, capable of real 2400wpc @ 4 ohms. |
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SouthwestCNC
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This begs the question what are the miniscoops useful for? |
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levyte357-
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Not sure. The best miniscoops out there currently, are Shortman/Marvin/QSS. |
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luton_soundman
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not good for anything....so everyone sell me your shortman or marvin mini scoops now!!
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Edited by jammin75 - 02 February 2018 at 6:56pm |
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feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion
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i personally quite liked Ballistic Rootikals shortman minis at "the soundclash" at Golden Palace in 2013/14?.. not the loudest cabs that night/in general but really nice and warm solid basslines compared to the others..
if i remember rog and theorie correctly - most minis are rather expo port reflex than real scoops as the hornpath is simply too short to act/work as a proper, low tuned, horn part but done right they are well working/non chuffing reflex cabs at least, guess the main issue is getting the driver/chamber matched to the desired tone and spl.. Higher qts drivers in larger chambers will sound warmer and do more low notes more efficiently by nature, yet need a strong suspension and force(b/l) to stay under control at large signals, those shortmans for example did sound rough/at the edge of loosing control at times but thats the price you pay for that sort of sound imo.. if you know about it and are able to stay within limits - all good.. (i personally swapped drivers in my sub cabs for some more robust ones for example, lost some tiny bit of lowend but gained so much more spl and impact that its been worth it, note, same amps used so basically pretty much the same power provided..) lower qts and smaller chamber using "real horn loading, higher tuning" is what is mostly prefered though, at least in most reggea/Dub soundsystems aifaik, for sheer spl/brute force, nowhere near the warmth or real depth/low notes but much louder 40/45ish hz up., for me a typical "hooligan" sound setup, you can tear almost any 300cap place apart with 4 cabs but its not really pleasant imo, not long therm.. nor really safe technically, mismatched driver and tuning/chamber could lead to dead coils quickly playing sine waves at the centre cab+driver tuning/least cone movement+eq and too much power.. its harder to hear the actual point of overdoing it imo, all seems fine till the coil gives up.. thats the price you might pay for that sort of sound on the other hand.. :) |
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