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    Posted: 12 December 2006 at 5:24pm
Not boasting, they're of superscoopers.
 
Two all ready for painting.

Awaiting the second side panel..

Sort of in the middle of being built, ah...
 

 
Tobin, thought I had one where the scoop formers were more visible. You may be able to make it out on the above once you view them full size.
 
Edit:Made the pics into clickable thumbnails as they came up huge and I hate that..


Edited by jethrocker - 12 December 2006 at 5:27pm
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These are not build pics of Super Scoopers, but from an ebay builder
who say's these are better than scoopers and maybe ASS.





Is this the Fane design? Seems deeper, wider, taller.

Complete build has scoop of course but no brace.
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thats the fane design mate,
 
that could be a 15'' scoop your looking at and not a 18''
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I only wish the Fane design were a lot better than scoopers. They're a whole lot easier to build, much less wood in them, far lighter, slightly narrower so more van space. Hang on, maybe they are better?
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Originally posted by Insomnia Insomnia wrote:

thats the fane design mate,
 
that could be a 15'' scoop your looking at and not a 18''


Yup, it is for the 15, and the fane design diag I linked to as well..

Just put it up to get some chat going, on the internals of another scoop
for a change.

Originally posted by jethrocker jethrocker wrote:


slightly narrower


Yeah, but lots of builders are going for wider, deeper scoops for deeper bass.
   
             SuperScooper    RX18

Height       1220            1113
Depth        760             880
Width        600             673



Edited by levyte357 - 13 December 2006 at 4:23am
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You notice on this design, the small triangular piece that's normally on the bottom panel in the rear chamber behind the driver magnet to reduce the throat area is not there.
 
I wonder if this affect this cab design ?
 
 
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that triangular piece you mention is not on the Fane or Eminence scoop plans, i also wonder how much difference it makes?



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Originally posted by Static Age Static Age wrote:

that triangular piece you mention is not on the Fane or Eminence scoop plans, i also wonder how much difference it makes?

 
Yeah I know Static, I've only seen the triangular piece on the supers..
 
Any idea if the ASS scoops has it ?  Anyone ever looked inside ?
 
 
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i recon its the eminence design, iv built quite a few now.....
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The triangular section on the scooper creates the throat, gives a slight compression chamber effect. I'm convinced this is part of the reason supers are som much more defined sounding than certain other scoops.
 
I didn't realise those ASS were so much deeper and wider. I have a feeling Rog tends to design with wastage in mind, the dimensions of the super mean little waste from each sheet.
 
Maybe someone can draw up/build/test a scoop with increased width/depth, and similarly precise internals to the supers. If Rogs driver bacomes available then we might be seeing a new superdooperscooper?!?
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I like the sound of that 'superdooperscooper' Jethrocker
 
This more defined sound you mention, do you think that this is the sound the sound system guys who plays roots reggae music wants to hear, or you think they only want to hear & feel bass rumbling & shaking up venues ?
 
I've still never heard a super scooper loaded with a PD1850 or V-18 1000, I've only heard them with PD186s.
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Originally posted by Tekasis Tekasis wrote:

I like the sound of that 'superdooperscooper' Jethrocker
 
This more defined sound you mention, do you think that this is the sound the sound system guys who plays roots reggae music wants to hear, or you think they only want to hear & feel bass rumbling & shaking up venues ?
 
Dunno, but I prefer to hear aswell as feel the bottom end. I get a bit bored to hear sounds flapping their cones around in an effort to produce as much low end as they can whilst and losing anything musical about the bassline. The upper region of the b-line in particular is generally ignored and left as a mush. I could listen to/experience a clean, tight, warm bass in which I can hear and feel every note and vibration forever.
 
I've still never heard a super scooper loaded with a PD1850 or V-18 1000, I've only heard them with PD186s.
 
You need to hear the 1850s (I haven't heard the voids either)..HARD, but nice;)
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