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bee
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the higher end cut off is 0.3khz less on the tda version...... than the original one..... and 3db down at the same point...
i.e. the original flare is 111.75db at 1.48khz the tda version is 109.8db at 1.48khz when u add and minus eq on the original to get a flat responce you can get it fairly flat at 110db before it drops off at 1.75khz when u add and minus eq on the tda version you get a flat response up to 1.48khz...... hope this helps guys..... Edited by bee - 20 December 2011 at 11:03pm |
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SBC
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shhhhhhhhhhhhh
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bee
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lol.... ok....
i say just buy a better comp......
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levyte357
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OK, another one for the "Confidential file" eh Saul.. |
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MarjanM
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1.4 and 1.7Khz?????? What the f**ck are you doing. That box should be cut at 1KHz at most.
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Marjan Milosevic
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i had made it clear, injunctions and sanctions had been issued. |
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SBC
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chill out matey there's no reason people can't at least experiment with playing paper higher. e.g. i know people who have crossed their MX450 and 600s at 3.2khz quite successfully and it gives full and clear response, with no ridiculous beaming. edit: typo
Edited by SBC - 21 December 2011 at 8:38am |
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paulus
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I also had my x over point around that area when I had mts loaded with fane 12ls
Same as when I had my mx 600s and indeed the cabs I have.now,i.reg run near on 400 per driver without issues cut around 160-180 ish Edited by paulus - 21 December 2011 at 8:58am |
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Joe Grime
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Can you enlighten me on the +/- eq values and at what frequencies to get this flat response. Thanks Steve
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levyte357
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+1 Especially with the multitude of drivers, and differing eq/processing people have. |
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bee
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ok the driver being used was the b&c 12ndl76, this driver does play higher than the pd123.......
i was not running test with the 2" the test were purely on the 12" run as low as it could with no higher cross over. Marjan, may be you did not no, but using 1 12" causes a massive dip just over 1khz with the original driver set out by roger Mogal, when you use the 12" horn in the original cab i.e. 2 12" horns this gap is alot higher up, hence why it is not noticed with a 2" comp..... If you plan to use the 12" horn and a 1" comp you could run into issues with the original driver choice, i.e. a dip in the sound just over 1khz. This dip is even worse with the tda version..... this info is nothing new its been talked about before.... there is some sims done with differant drivers by a forum member......... the question asked was is there any differance in sound between the original and tda version in my view yes..... in my tests yes....... but with the right 12" driver and comp set with very carfull cross over settings, you should be fine..... all i have done is built 1 normal mt12 horn and a tda version and run a few tests....... because its fun to play with speakers...............
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bee
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should of said ideally you want to cross over the mt121 at about 1.2khz.......
at the last fsp speaker meet, a few people said are u sure....... but agreed they sounded better crossed this low, any higher and that dip becomes apparent....... even after alot of eq....
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