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Quote But DMX, why. You have frightended me off. I've got a PC and I've got a projector, its simple. I want a PC program to make pretty patterns so I can blow my mind with a smoke machine and my projector. Why did you have to bring DMX to the party.


If you are talking about V3D then its not exclusively DMX. However it supports DMX I/O as it is trying to be a laser, so has to support all of the optional control methods that lasers do. In a lot of install situations lasers will have a main machine/controller that is pre-loaded with frames and animations. The control of these is then given over to the LX op who has somewhere in the region of 8 to 14 DMX channels to control frame selection, rotations, zooms, pans, scan rate, etc.

It's a way of giving the laser control over to the lighting desk for better integration into a show and less specialised knowledge required.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ben_Lawrance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 October 2009 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by norty303 norty303 wrote:

Didn't Martin want somewhere in the region of £40k
 
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I'm going to give this a go.
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Originally posted by Rog Mogale Rog Mogale wrote:

 
Best laser I ever saw was in 1991 at the Academy in union street Plymouth. Opus supplied the sound system and I was standing on the balcony
 
 
 
last i heard, the academy is undergoing building surveying and early stages of planning for a new 'superclub/venue'. Big secrets on which international chain it is conducting these works, but should be interesting. Hopefully they wont sell out on the tech side of things if it goes ahead. Plymouth has enough 'average' clubs already!!
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@rog the program works without the dmx aspect (ithink it also because it means you can hook up a normal lazer and use the same prog)  it has a load of set patterns allready programed but tbh the op one is the best imo despite it being german (not being racist i just cant read the dam thing lol) but im working it out the best part is that it all runs by playing flash videos meaning if you able to create basic motion tweens in flash you can make your own effects :) these loads of ones allready in there. Anyway long storry short i had a play at the gig at the weekend doing some basic progs and that despite not having a working hazer it didnt look to bad i even got complimented on my VJ'ing which made me chuckle

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Originally posted by Rog Mogale Rog Mogale wrote:

 
Best laser I ever saw was in 1991 at the Academy in union street Plymouth. Opus supplied the sound system and I was standing on the balcony taking a break when this large red ovulating circle appeard infront of me. Then a yellow triangle appeared and slowly zoomed in and out of the circle. Then followed a blue box that also zoomed in and out and also started bouncing off the yellow triangle. This went on untill there were 6 objects of differnet colours all dancing, zooming and forming new patterns within the ovulating circle. My mind was totally blown away and I just couldn't leave from where I was. Talk about engaging. And I wasn't even on any drugs.
 
So yeah, the fact that I remember that night means a well programed laser can be about the best mind altering effect money can buy.


That was the one - we hired in quite a bit of opus, the inhouse system has still left its mark on my hearing Angry  - it was an early Alpha Wave if I remember correctly! Bloody hell, what were you doing down in deepest darkest parts of wales for those nights...? Interesting venue that has now sadly gone.

It certainly was a beaut of a laser though!

And yes with application like flash it could all be so much easier than DMX. That gives me an idea...



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pav Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2009 at 9:55pm
Off subject slightly but I saw this at Barco's factory in Belgium the other day and it's the muts!  Unfortunately they were not up for loaning me one to test!!!

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The academys just a giant dust accumulater these days Shame i thought it was quite a charming venue (by plymouths standards)
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Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

Originally posted by Rog Mogale Rog Mogale wrote:

 
Best laser I ever saw was in 1991 at the Academy in union street Plymouth. Opus supplied the sound system and I was standing on the balcony
 
 
 
last i heard, the academy is undergoing building surveying and early stages of planning for a new 'superclub/venue'. Big secrets on which international chain it is conducting these works, but should be interesting. Hopefully they wont sell out on the tech side of things if it goes ahead. Plymouth has enough 'average' clubs already!!
 
The people that run the pavillions (Worst Venue acoustics ever!!!)
are involved they what to convert it into the new pavillions, for bigger bands and stuff
trouble is what ever you do there it will still be on union street and i for one don't like
getting verbal and physical abuse from navy boys of a night out...the crash manor also
on union street, has just opend and has a brand new opus soundsystem and very fancy
decor looks like a shoreditch ponce bar totally  out of place with its setting...
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the closing of the academy was in my eyes then death of plymouth really. Tramps changed hands, couperage shut up shop more or less and pretty much all 'underground' venues gave in as wll as promotors.

As far as I knew it closed due to the council wanting it bull dozed as the whole of union street was for re-development - how they went about it is another story - glad I wasn't in that night Shocked But with the crunch who knows - there was a petition for a while fighting the closure.

I think doing the union street run makes the venue all the better - it's the goal at the end of the road - are you gonna make it or are you gonna get a bloody nose! good old plym - great memorys!


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This interface is a nice tool for those who do small type indoor events, and are weak on lighting rig! 

Take a try :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sim=bient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2009 at 1:42pm
I remember plymouth being a very different world to what it is now i guess that was partly to do with the last of the free-festival generation living southwest, they are all in there 40's now and can't be botherd with it, most of em I need to clean my mouth out with soap and watered off to portugal or somewhere warm shame the current generation are a bunch of spoon fed mongs. no generalization intended but its true.
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