Void V18-1000

from what i read on here, rog has the right idea..  use the chinese cheap labour to make the individual components - without teaching them enough to use the knowledge to build the whole finished product.  then ship back the components to be assembled by professionals with more going on up top than just a mind trying to rip off the product they are paid to be making.  

So i was right about vas?

nomis wrote: please stop china bashing all the time.we get stuff made there for one reason-its cheaper,and hence companies can squeeze more profits from cheap labour. its time to make more products closer to home,and big up the companies doing so. yes,even products made closer to home can be copied,but how many people buy fake fk1 for example and really believe theyre getting the same product,how many sales do they actually loose? frankly,slagging off people 'getting to know too much about the product they make' is an example of our attitude to others.if i made drivers all day for not much,i might get curious as to how to do it without being ripped off by my paymasters,surrounded by toxic filth whilst they proudly announce how much cleaner it is up north theese days.rant over!

Yes we do tend to outsource a lot of manufacturing to China these days to save due to their lack of manufacturing regulations+worker protection amongst other things. It is also well known that western IP laws might as well not exist there and so if you give away too much product information then you can fully expect a competing exported product to turn up in your market at 1/3 of the price. Maybe the quality is poor compared to yours but it doesn't matter when you can't sell any units and go bust anyway.

We only shoot oursleves in the foot for these short term profit gains really, until China decides to play a level ball game then we are always going to loose the import/export battle. For example see Google pulling out of the Chinese market due to slightly less than ethical behaviour on the Chinese side, hopefully that will force some CEOs to confront a few issues.

and on topic:

Just to say good luck with your tinkering Lev, it is what the DIY ethic is all about after all. I think you may be barking up a rather expensive tree for little gain by redesigning heavy duty drivers but someone has got to have a go. I will look forward to any measurements you get to make. Out of interest do you have any maths or modelling to back your ideas up or is it based on a feeling?


Edited by odc04r - 13 January 2010 at 2:32pm