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TRE4U2NV 
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 Posted: 22 April 2007 at 2:58am |
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tony a.s.s. just heard the story about the bracing from joseph king josiah i can remember what happened but i didn,t know they were a.s.s. boxes then we just used to call them coxsone boxes lol
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TONY.A.S.S.
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Posted: 23 April 2007 at 3:20am |
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Is the man still about. We spent some time together building up his system and then he seemed to dissapear off the face of the planet. I would like to speak to him again. any ideas?.
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Tekasis
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Posted: 20 September 2007 at 5:27pm |
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Did you forget Tony ? have the shorter RX Jnr's dissapeared then ?
You had time to pick one up yet ?
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ToNy MoNtAnA
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Posted: 20 September 2007 at 10:12pm |
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Now the interesting thing to test would be an ASS RX JNR with a Void V18-1200. Vs Shortman's Mini Scoop with Void V18-1200. And will hear,feel which box + driver combo is king!
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TONY.A.S.S.
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Posted: 20 September 2007 at 10:35pm |
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I'm just building them and selling them. No fuss No big deal, Business as usual.
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twinysteve
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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 3:05pm |
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i think mykey and phils old scoops would give people a run for there money ask around
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as i said
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jsg mashed
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Posted: 21 October 2007 at 4:01pm |
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Show me any scoop and I can make it better by gutting it and building a bandpass into the same cabinet with the same driver. A win every time, no worries.
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...because Good is Dumb.
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levyte357
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Posted: 21 October 2007 at 5:52pm |
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And what happens if you try to use it outside or in large venues? Unless you have a huge stack of em, you can't hear em. No, bandpass are not better than scoops, they are for different venues. Outside 4x decent scoops in a stack @ 1k each can be heard far away, try that with 4x single driver bandpass. |
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"Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".
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levyte357
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Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:10pm |
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Think you'll find V18-1200 in Shortman Mini/full scoop performs better than RX18 due to throat design/volume. Don't forget I have 4x,  .The larger chamber alone does'nt guarantee compatibility. However I'm sure there is another driver in the Enlarged RX18, that would give the above combos a run for the money.  |
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"Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".
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jsg mashed
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Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:59pm |
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Wrong. |
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levyte357
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Posted: 22 October 2007 at 12:52pm |
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Reading many of your previous posts, I see you are partial to bandpass cabs, so I will be as diplomatic as possible. I agree many bandpass cabs give nice flat response from approx 30hz to 80hz. However you don't see many outside gigs with piles of "just bandpass" cabs. Far more common are Stacks of Looneys, Labs, Punishers,1850/186 horns, or scoops. I'm sure that tells you something, unless those rig owners are all wrong as well, and should get rid of all those folded horns and use bandpass/X1's instead. |
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jsg mashed
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Posted: 22 October 2007 at 1:17pm |
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This is due to prejudice, a lack of existing cabinet options, and insufficient knowledge about how to design bandpass cabs.
NOW IT IS TIME TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION!!!
I will design you a scoop-killing bandpass subwoofer. I will design this cabinet and supply the designs unto you here, in this forum. I will name my creation the MIGHTY DUB PASS.
The MIGHTY DUB PASS will have the exact same outer dimensions as a typical scoop. It will take a single 18 inch driver of a make/model I will specify when I supply the plans here in this forum before you. I will make it possible to convert an existing SCOOP into MIGHTY DUB PASS to ease the passage out of obselecence.
The MIGHTY DUB PASS will be designed for use with mid-bass "kick" bins like HD15, F1 218 etc. It will be optimised for the basslines of REGGAE, DUB, DRUM&BASS and DUB STEP. It will work indoors and out, and in small multiples or large.
MIGHTY DUB PASS will use more advanced bandpass technology than any speaker whose plans are available at this time. Yet it will be simpler to construct than any SCOOP. MIGHTY DUB PASS will be more sensitive, play lower, have better impulse/phase response and lower distortion than any of: SCOOPS HORNS REFLEX.
MIGHTY DUB PASS will shake your beliefs - and all objects near by. MIGHTY DUB PASS will change your perceptions - by blurring your vision and compressing your chest cavity. You will ask "what have I been listening to all along that only now I can hear the bass as it was truly recorded?". Then you will know that MIGHTY DUB PASS is not just the future, but all of time and space.
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...because Good is Dumb.
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TONY.A.S.S. wrote: