What is the fault with SCOOPS

 

Nope - Running both FFA & Crests for a few years now

 

Freddy Hopper wrote: Luv Injection Carried out 24 recently made scoops, 12 aside.  Klark Teknik, with these purple F something amps plus Crest to the teeth.

 

Fe real - That would make a perfect match

 

Design has moved on since the WSX mainly due to people wanting lots of low bass - hence the development of the labsub, the WSX isnt really any better than an 1850 in terms of extension. I think people are finally realising that having vast amounts of 30Hz isnt really that useful to you, since there isnt a lot going on down there anyway and you need exponential amounts of power to get that frequency up to the same level as the others, as far as I am concerned so long as you have something of a fundamental present even if its 10dB quieter it still has an effect on your perception of the subbass, if it isnt there at all (such as with a single CV folded horn) the sound is far less likely to fool you into thinking there is more subbass than there is. This is why I think the BFM Titans are doing so well - look at the response, nice peak at 100Hz, smoothly descending to a fundamental at 42Hz which is a lot quieter, yet a lot of DJs are using them over the Tubas (which were designed for that purpose). I would be willing to bet that the Titans actually work quite well for old skool reggae and dancehall.

 

As mykey says stick a boost at 63Hz and your perception of a fat warm tubby sounding bass will go up exponentially.

 

As to using folded horns vs scoops, scoops are always going to appear louder up close, the scoop has the edge in the upper bass because of the direct radiating driver causing more distortion. Its also going to be kicking air at your chest level from having the driver elevated and its going to have a myriad of phase problems in the bass/midbass region with the horn and driver interacting which is going to give a very sludgy sound which may well be just right for some types of music

 

The benefits of a scoop I think are best used in an indoor confined space up close, I get the feeling unless you have enough of them to form a sufficient boundary you dont get quite the same effect a few metres away outdoors. The combination of features of a scoop I am sure do make it suitable for some types of music. But the aim of a speaker system designer is to design a system which is able to reproduce the music you feed it accurately and a scoop does not (and indeed is not designed) to do this, which makes this genre, and this cab somewhat unique which is why it will continue to remain.

 

Stu