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Originally posted by mskeete mskeete wrote:

wassup, you seen to like to take these discussions where they doubt need to go (well at least not in this thread) - woolly hats and rasta and weed and helping a next sound........
 
Well chosen ! like you said SEEM......however certainly not a preconcieved notion of mine and kept in CONTEXT VERY RELEVANT..Isnt the soundsystem a voice?
 
You've seen at least one open invite on this forum to sounds to come and play in walsall
Did you follow it through? (all I saw on the forum from you was a largely less than positive response)
 
Again well chosen words tread carfully! No i didnt see it ! Quit far for me the logistics of it all mind you certainly not saying i wouldnt! Did you also see in a thread not so long ago that i had offerd to come for nothing yet my offer wasnt taken? ne hard feelings BRO either way!
 
It's IC's you'll find in JTS and my preamps not transistors. I use one transistor and that's for the output muting circuit. Some of circuits are quite close to what you find in name brand 'pro' equipment - e.g phono stage
 
I used the word transistors for the want of better or more words .I ment all what is to be found within! Not being specifiek just generally speaking..Sorry i see i may not do that and in the future wil specify!
 
You understand electronics don't you ?
 
DO I ?
 
Go to the rane website and check out some of the circuit diagrams that they are kind enough to put in the public domain and tell me what's  so special and check the IC's they use - nothing exoctic or too expensive, check out some mackie, neeve or whoever
Same sort of thing so what is it that's "close to crap" in a preamp...
 
OUT OF CONTEXT ! Ok no literary genius i know but i didnt say that at all!this is what i said or i am missing something????
Yes quality or a far cry from CRAP  ,i dont doubt    is what i said... again no worries.....I was being posotive in my mind!!
 
If you want to back up your statements with technical talk then I'm here. If you want to drag more politics into the discussion then I'll go and read something else on the forum..
 
 Sounds like a school playground GUV...... so i guess its go READ sumfing else!
 
Mind you are soundsystems seperate from politriks?
I mean  HUMMBLE in one of his post recently seems to say the two are not to be seperated..
He thanks the soundsytem for all his KNOWLEDGE! Abviously not your oppinion......BTW my initial remark or question was dirrected at the BERRY in question certainly didnt realize i would meet with so much hostility and or animosity!! so again sorry ! mind you not sure for what!
 
you seem to have a thing about preamps - maybe too many people been telling that you HAVE to have one and you 'rebeled' - good for you....
 
Well thanx! lol But me it was THINGS and TIMES i had this and that so i built on it !! Which is what i have been saying all along! CERTAINLY NOT IN ANYWAY REBELIOUS! Again like i said if i had nothing i would certainly investigate starting with a pre !!!!!
 
Buying components in bulk just starts to make sense when you have a certain amount of things to build. If I can get the SAME component cheaper if I buy 100+ or 500+ and I know they get used up then why buy 50 and pay more per part
 
Good BIZ sence! GUV
But again not what i was saying! What i was trying to say is, are the components used in a berry or such like THAT MUCH INFERIOUR TO THE ONES LETS SAY YOU USE???????I can see it however pos!Also not saying you would cut corners but you are subject to the same as any manufacturers! Thats just it! So how do you reach your balance was basicaly it!
I build make lots of things out of having to or to go without[my thing]! Sometime one has to take less or more ...Why is this any different than buying electrical components?
 
Computers aren't perfect and there is more to go wrong in a computer than in a analog piece of equipment. If you knew all the sh*t involved to just get the OS to boot (maybe you do) never mind running an application then you might think twice about playing aout with one
 
I think thats the point TONY ASS was making! All things go wrong at some point in time TRUE ENOUGH!
 
Me i just push the button and it goes on thats it finished[well and i can do a little bit more lol]! But if it did break down i could use any comp from anyone ! Not something that could be said for a pre! IS IT?
So perhaps i should ask why build it a PRE none modular? Why do you do that! Is it just a question of space? I mean a sound system[the stack] is modular so is almost everything else but not the PRE......! Why ?
 
 
I aint agianst YOU M ! You should know that? I tell anyone who want a PRE to go to YOU so lol WASUP?????
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Originally posted by tweeter box tweeter box wrote:

 
The item in the bottom of the rack is a 4way VALVE preamp made by behringer! Wink
 
It has seperate parametric eq's on sub bass, mid bass, mid and treble 
 
The JTS has a few more additional features at 8+fold the price! Confused 
 
What id like to know is;
 
a) What is the difference between the features on here and the EXACT/EQUIVILANT same features on a JTS pre amp? If any!!
 
b) Is the price justified? considering the behringer gives out that warm vavlve sound system bass ( JTS got no valves ) and only cost me £89 from new with recipt and garuntee!
 
Thanks in advance for all your input/feedback Big%20smile
just use wat ever u wanna use
 
if u like wat u hear
 
u got a followin
 
u makin money 
 
it hasnt cost u too much to get wat u want
carry on doin wat u want till u can afford to buy beta stuff
 
 
Originally posted by ToNy MoNtAnA ToNy MoNtAnA wrote:


But it's not essential, as Jah Voice don't have one, but sound heavyweight and play decent tunes so the crowd loves them.

But if you want to be a traditional reggae sound system with sirens and fx etc, you need a pre-amp like JTS or mostec.
j-voice has blow the need a preamp myth out the window, they can do the (sirens and fx etc) thing cause they use a mixer & must have unused channels
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I think there are two points in answer to the original question, both have been expressed, so its clear it just down to opinion/preference.
 
You can work out any set up to run a sound, you could use fifty different pieces of equipment to run it thru. Many sounds to the day are still playing round with different ways of setting up. Thats the 'fun' of sound system. Whether you can hear much difference.....? I've not heard anything that drastic to make me think its all that worthwhile.
 
The pre amp makes running a whole heap of equipment simple. The ammount of technicals every sound has, its handy to have signals as straight forward to trace/control. As i see it the pre amp is the ideal custom built solution, fed from experience since the begininngs of sound system. If you have any way different to run sound, thats choice, and also a natural development in running sound. There are no rules.
 
Personally, i couldn't run it without a pre. I dont have enough technical knowledge to know how to make a set up that is cheaper and as effective, and good; to my ears. I remember Tubbys played a session in Nottingham, think it was with Smith & Mighty. Tubbys took about 12k and S&M(!!) had somthing like 60!!! Tubbys out weighted comfortably. There are countless stories similar, ie. Boomshackalacka sound, their spec stood up to others with a lot bigger. Simple things, no secret buttons/units business.
 
Bottom line, it's what you do with what you got. Personally Jah Voice spent a whole heap of money on equipment, but i get no flavour from their sound. All productions sound the same thru their set, lack 'character'. I like to hear 'difference', ruff around the edges is part of the music, check the cycle of old hardware/sounds coming back in vogue in productions. Also it should be noted that a lot of material played on sounds as dubplate are often un-mastered, its difficult to 'shine a turd'. Again, character, if the vibes are there, which is the reason it gets to reach a session as a special dub, let it runnnnnn same way! I still look forward to developments with Voice, they're making a lot more of their own tunes and full respect for that. It's only my preference on their sound, i'm just more keen on hearing more of their productions, there's a lot of experience in there.
 
 
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Respect King Simeon for your opinion Smile
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